worst rail in the world to do a true return line with !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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worst rail in the world to do a true return line with !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
um....wanna post some reasons why before you knock on someone product without any information. I just got done with my Aaronneon fuel return line with Boombas fuel rail and it went smooth as butter.
Last edited by nottasrt4 : 01-15-2007 at 10:42 PM.
yeah at look at the way your feed is.....the boomba rail is an equal flow rail and the feed on your is feeding in the middle in the rail and exiting on the one side so the number 1 and 2 cylinders are not getting the proper fuel pressure....so that is not a "true" return line setup like i said was hard to do...i will take a pic tomorrow to show you
hehe, the boomba rail flows across all the injectors evenly. it doesn't feed from the middle like the Perrin fuel rail which is the rail this guy must be thinking of.
your setup is mint nadda to worry about
ok good first time doing the damn thing and it always worries me if i do things wrong lol.
before anything gets said sorry i havnt had time to post pics till now because i have a 14 day old baby girl i have been trying to spend time with but by the comments that have been made in this post i am just gonna let the shit fly and make you guys feel like absolute ass's....
notice the top of the rail the stock hole spot the hole right next to it and the plug that is on the back of the rail between the 2nd and 3rd injector.....this is a equal flow rail those are machine holes to make the rail an equal flow rail.....thats why there is that big hump in the front of the rail.....that tappers down right in the middle of the rail....so you all need to get the facts straight and stop being ass holes when you have no flippin clue what your talkin about
now for the issue i had with this rail...there is now enough clearance between the rail and the filler neck to do a -8an to -6an male male adaptor and a 90* fitting to run the fuel line.....so i had to get a -8an 90* fitting and a -8an female to a -6an male adaptor which is huge and grind the whole outside of the adaptor down to make it fit plus i had to grind a small section of the radiator cap itself off still to make it fit
here is the end result.....
sop nottasrt you setup needs fixed it is putting fuel down thru the middle of the rail and then out the end....those 2 injectrs are not getting all the fuel they should be.....but hey by the way you guys talk im the wrong one
Man, I see exactly what you are saying. It almost makes sense. There is (in my opinion) a flaw in your logic. The return line sets the static pressure (lower or higher), however, do you really think that pressure is not equal through the rail? Like there is 50PSI in the rail, but only on half of it, there is no/less fuel in the other half? When it is pressurized to the set pressure, that pressure is constant across the entire rail, no matter the direction of flow. Of course this is my opinion, and my opinion is always subject to being wrong. I am comfortable with my Boomba rail, and my return line.
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on my old return line setup i used a first gen rail with the schrader valve in the middle....and i always had a fuel issue where it would go alittle on the lean side from the middle to the top of the rpm range compared to normal return line with an 03 rail....i replaced the rail with an 03 and it fattened p the top end back up like it should......its like the fuel was flowing so fast thru the rail and at so much pressure it is like elctricity....it follows the flow of least resistance and just alot of fuel dosent make it to those 2 injectors.....also when the rail was run that way i had more knock than with an 03 rail.....so in my personal exsperiance there is a big diffrence in running the rail the way it should be run.....i really dont wanna blow my motor up now after upgrading to this turbo.....so i would seriously take a look at maybe redoing these setups
ok first im going to defend myself because I dont like being called an ass because Ive done nothing wrong but ask a question. You made a post that made no sense and I asked why because I have a boomba FR and if you have a flaw id like to know. All you had to do was post the pics and your opinion of info FIRST. You were the one being an asshole and should just post information and comments to help other srt owners on here not as you put try to make everyone feel like an ass. Nice to see your daughter is being raised by a total ass clown.
Man, I see exactly what you are saying. It almost makes sense. There is (in my opinion) a flaw in your logic. The return line sets the static pressure (lower or higher), however, do you really think that pressure is not equal through the rail? Like there is 50PSI in the rail, but only on half of it, there is no/less fuel in the other half? When it is pressurized to the set pressure, that pressure is constant across the entire rail, no matter the direction of flow. Of course this is my opinion, and my opinion is always subject to being wrong. I am comfortable with my Boomba rail, and my return line.
As of now, you are 100% correct in my book. Before I say totally, Ill check a rail tomorow and make sure.
I have a very hard time understanding his posts so Im not 100% sure what he is actually saying I think I have the jist of it, and Im gonna have to say that your totally right. However Ill double check what the rail looks like inside and get back to you guys tomorow with my thoughts.
I will say this, there are MANY people out there using this rail with my return line, and I havent heard of a single problem.
oddest part about the original post is that he is complaining about the return set up but his pics are about the feed, which looks like it was a pain in the ass, so what is the real issuse. The feed or the return and if it is the return where are you pics about that??
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oh fyi I have an easy fit for your feed issue and it is a very minor bottle neck.. call agp buy a quick connect for the stock feed location. It threads onto a -6an fitting and then you can use the stock location again.. no fitment issuse
no nottasrt when yu posted that wtf? below the picture you dumbified thats what pissed me off and you said the feed was on the right and the return was on the left so i was informing you that yes this is an equal flow rail and yes it puts fuel down in the middle of the rail
nasty nas i am not gonna put it back on there.....there is no reason too the feed needs to bee this way and i will not change it.....have you even read any of this post? it has nothing to do with a bottle neck
and yes my pproblem is with the feed but the last time i checked a return line setup was a unregulated feed, thru the rail, thru a regulator, and then the wasted fuel back to the tank.....so yes the problem is the feed but its still in a true return line setup
aaronneon......yes in essence that guy is correct it should still have the proper flow across the rail but when i had a rail hooked up this way i had issues......it was like the fuel was following the path of least resistance inside the rail and probably created a suction inside the rail and pulled the fuel away from that end of the rail....every now and again when i was under heavy boost and highly tuned and leaned out pretty good it would hickup like around 5 grand and up and it wasnt spark blow out it was like one cylinder wasnt even getting any fuel and there was nothing to spark so it just sounded like a hickup......
yes many people are running there cars the way everyone else seems to have theres run but sometimes with bigger injectors that might not be a bad thing because they are rated at lower fuel psi levels anyway.....
who else with a boomba rail and return line setup has monitored knock? like i said i monitered knock with my old setup and it knocked more with the rail setup this way than with the 03 rail tuned on the same tank of gas on the same dyno on the same day.....so i believe that constitutes a problem....
was that easiest enough to understand this time since you said you cant understand me?
Last edited by onthedwnlow : 01-21-2007 at 07:49 AM.
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