through the 2.4 engine (built or stock doesnt matter) that has not blown it up yet?
How much have you run?
DP or single nozzle?
Stock turbo or bigger?
progressive or on a switch?
Enrichment tank or from the fuel rail?
through the 2.4 engine (built or stock doesnt matter) that has not blown it up yet?
How much have you run?
DP or single nozzle?
Stock turbo or bigger?
progressive or on a switch?
Enrichment tank or from the fuel rail?
- I think Dmoney is running a 100 shot on a single fogger on a stock turbo'd car running W/I to race octane.
- Neon Marine (sold car) ran a 200 shot on a stock turbo'd 2 stage system. He had a built motor
- Ddog blew up his S3 running a various nitrous shots on hom!!! New build should be done soon (I think)
Thanks Rhunter. I will be running direct port nitrous with a 50 trim on a fully built engine. I was just getting a feel as to where I can feel safe starting on the nitrous.
Thanks Rhunter. I will be running direct port nitrous with a 50 trim on a fully built engine. I was just getting a feel as to where I can feel safe starting on the nitrous.
let us know how that turns out. That car is gonna haul ass!!! I'd start with like a 35 shot and work your way up from there.
my orginal plan was nitrous and a E1, but I got a used AGP delta kit for 1100.00
If i spray as well it's gonna be a small shot. I'm on stock bottom end with 90k on it.
actually i have ran a 150shot with a single. but only for a few pulls. but everything looked like i had good distribution. that was with q16 race gas and my direct port wi kit with 8.9gpm flow.
actually i have ran a 150shot with a single. but only for a few pulls. but everything looked like i had good distribution. that was with q16 race gas and my direct port wi kit with 8.9gpm flow.
Thats similar to my setup. I will have the direct port nitrous on top of the manifold, direct port meth under the manifold, and running a dedicated enrichment tank of 100% meth to be used as the fuel for the nitrous. I had to get alcohol noids and jetting to be able to run meth as the primary nitrous fuel. Im not finished with it yet but its all coming together pretty well. The 50 trim should sit between 25-27 psi off the nitrous, so it will max out when the spray is on. Pure meth is only $4 a gallon here so its the cats meow.
All forged internals with oversize stainless valves, ported head, 5 layer head gasket, 50 trim, ported intake, crower cams and valve springs, upgraded rockers, adjustable cam gears, and all the normal mods to run the 50 trim safe and effective.
This may seem like an odd approach but I actually gave it alot of thought before choosing this route. I wanted the street manners and daily driveability of the 50 trim with its fast spool and long power band, but at the same time I wanted a car that would be able to run 10s at the track with just a change of the tires and a few small tricks. The car will drive around at all times on 93 octane pump fuel and never need to see race fuel. Just a healthy dose of methanol when it needs it. Knock and the rest of the tune will be logged and watched closely.
Thats similar to my setup. I will have the direct port nitrous on top of the manifold, direct port meth under the manifold, and running a dedicated enrichment tank of 100% meth to be used as the fuel for the nitrous. I had to get alcohol noids and jetting to be able to run meth as the primary nitrous fuel. Im not finished with it yet but its all coming together pretty well. The 50 trim should sit between 25-27 psi off the nitrous, so it will max out when the spray is on. Pure meth is only $4 a gallon here so its the cats meow.
All forged internals with oversize stainless valves, ported head, 5 layer head gasket, 50 trim, ported intake, crower cams and valve springs, upgraded rockers, adjustable cam gears, and all the normal mods to run the 50 trim safe and effective.
This may seem like an odd approach but I actually gave it alot of thought before choosing this route. I wanted the street manners and daily driveability of the 50 trim with its fast spool and long power band, but at the same time I wanted a car that would be able to run 10s at the track with just a change of the tires and a few small tricks. The car will drive around at all times on 93 octane pump fuel and never need to see race fuel. Just a healthy dose of methanol when it needs it. Knock and the rest of the tune will be logged and watched closely.
Wish me luck.
Sounds like you thought this out. you are gonna need to look at your tranny and clutch set up if you want a consistent 10 sec car. I would look at what Erabbit has done to his car and copy that.
I'm far from an expert but I know that car has some tranny work done to it.
I hear ya. I just put in a new ACT 6 puck and flywheel, 3rd gear, syncro, shift fork,and had to change the input shaft because mine was twisted and ready to snap. You are right though, I probably need to at least be looking at a billet input shaft. I have 2 brand new spare axles sitting here because I know thats just a matter of time as well. I think a progressive controller and slicks will help with the shock effect of the nitrous but still wont be a cure.
I hear ya. I just put in a new ACT 6 puck and flywheel, 3rd gear, syncro, shift fork,and had to change the input shaft because mine was twisted and ready to snap. You are right though, I probably need to at least be looking at a billet input shaft. I have 2 brand new spare axles sitting here because I know thats just a matter of time as well. I think a progressive controller and slicks will help with the shock effect of the nitrous but still wont be a cure.
Dude,
I'm now a fan of your car!! Any pics you can share?
I'm now a fan of your car!! Any pics you can share?
Please keep us posted.
I dont have any of the engine bay right now but I will take some shortly. Right now the car is at a friends shop, the engine is back at the machine shop, and the manifolds, turbo, and misc parts are here. It will all come back together real quick though.
I ran 80 shot on my car way before when I first started, on stock turbo was making 315 whp then when i ran the spray it made 420.
My buddy ran a e1 turbo 17psi making 270 whp and then he had big shot to where the car made 450 whp and 500 TQ on stock engine. The power was sick and he never blew it.
Thats similar to my setup. I will have the direct port nitrous on top of the manifold, direct port meth under the manifold, and running a dedicated enrichment tank of 100% meth to be used as the fuel for the nitrous. I had to get alcohol noids and jetting to be able to run meth as the primary nitrous fuel. Im not finished with it yet but its all coming together pretty well. The 50 trim should sit between 25-27 psi off the nitrous, so it will max out when the spray is on. Pure meth is only $4 a gallon here so its the cats meow.
All forged internals with oversize stainless valves, ported head, 5 layer head gasket, 50 trim, ported intake, crower cams and valve springs, upgraded rockers, adjustable cam gears, and all the normal mods to run the 50 trim safe and effective.
This may seem like an odd approach but I actually gave it alot of thought before choosing this route. I wanted the street manners and daily driveability of the 50 trim with its fast spool and long power band, but at the same time I wanted a car that would be able to run 10s at the track with just a change of the tires and a few small tricks. The car will drive around at all times on 93 octane pump fuel and never need to see race fuel. Just a healthy dose of methanol when it needs it. Knock and the rest of the tune will be logged and watched closely.
Wish me luck.
interesting setup. just to clarify, is the direct port nitrous kit wet or dry? from your post, it sounds like it is dry, and you are using the direct port meth kit to supply the additional fuel...
interesting setup. just to clarify, is the direct port nitrous kit wet or dry? from your post, it sounds like it is dry, and you are using the direct port meth kit to supply the additional fuel...
what kind of engine management?
nah, I would'nt use a dry kit on a car with no MAF sensor. Its a wet kit, the direct port meth is to raise octane and supply extra fuel for the 25+ PSI for the 5o trim. Then in addition to the meth injection, it will use methanol from a seperate fuel cell with its own fuel pump,regulator, fiter, to supply the fuel side of the nitrous.
So engine only=93 octane
engine with boost= 93 octane and meth
engine with boost and nitrous= 93 octane, meth and more meth.
The main engine tuning will be done with the DSP, then individual items are controlled on their own like 2 step, WOT box, meth injection, progressive nitrous controller, fp switch, window switch, tps, ect.
In my research I am finding that I may not even have to pull hardly any timing with methanol being the fuel source. We will see.
nah, I would'nt use a dry kit on a car with no MAF sensor. Its a wet kit, the direct port meth is to raise octane and supply extra fuel for the 25+ PSI for the 5o trim. Then in addition to the meth injection, it will use methanol from a seperate fuel cell with its own fuel pump,regulator, fiter, to supply the fuel side of the nitrous.
So engine only=93 octane
engine with boost= 93 octane and meth
engine with boost and nitrous= 93 octane, meth and more meth.
The main engine tuning will be done with the DSP, then individual items are controlled on their own like 2 step, WOT box, meth injection, progressive nitrous controller, fp switch, window switch, tps, ect.
In my research I am finding that I may not even have to pull hardly any timing with methanol being the fuel source. We will see.
DSMlights, Thats what I like to hear!
WOW sounds like a killer setup.....I'm still trying to work the nerve up to spray a 50 shot with the water/meth flowing
Do you have anyway to pull timing? MSD DIS2 ect.... You need a way to pull couple degrees of total timing. Meth+N2O=!!!
BTW, I sprayed a Zex rated 150 shot DP that netted 130hp gain. I did that through a stock turbo with no port work on the exhaust manifold. I had a Modern Performance rebuild kit with 8.0:1 JE's/Eagle H-beams. I was using a DCR 5 layer HG, so the static comp was about ~7.8:1. It put down 398hp/409tq. Stock head, no cams, CM clutch.
The killing thing was I had a Dyno tune add a stage on it. My goal was to max both kits out at a total of 275hp shot. Life got it the way.
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Whos running the most nitrous
Any pics you can share?
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