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Old 07-20-2009, 06:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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well a few questions. im not up to date on n20 so here it goes.
we just got a stg 3 with toys kit and gettin ready to install it. then we wanna do a dirrect port kit. as of now we have a brand new NX n tercooler kit. what can we use out of that kit and what do we neeed to buy for the dirrect port kit. we got the fuel rail with the valve on the end so i know thats where we can get our fuel from. whats the best to spray without killing the motor. only gonna spray at the track whenever we make it there. thanks again and any suggestions is great.
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well a few questions. im not up to date on n20 so here it goes.
we just got a stg 3 with toys kit and gettin ready to install it. then we wanna do a dirrect port kit. as of now we have a brand new NX n tercooler kit. what can we use out of that kit and what do we neeed to buy for the dirrect port kit. we got the fuel rail with the valve on the end so i know thats where we can get our fuel from. whats the best to spray without killing the motor. only gonna spray at the track whenever we make it there. thanks again and any suggestions is great.

Your best bet is to sell the Ntercooler kit and purchase a DP kit.

I don't know for sure but I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict it will cost you a metric ass ton to convert that to a direct port nitrous kit.
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lol very nice geuss i know there isnt much i could use minus bottle and such but what im getting at where has the best price on a dp kit. and what would make it complete. found a dp kit on ebay made by cold fusion nitrous. dont know what else i would need . just a little help is what i need lol
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lol very nice geuss i know there isnt much i could use minus bottle and such but what im getting at where has the best price on a dp kit. and what would make it complete. found a dp kit on ebay made by cold fusion nitrous. dont know what else i would need . just a little help is what i need lol

Cold fusion makes good kits. You could also look at the Zex DP kits. They are probably the easiest to install because they use flex lines instead of hard lines. As far as cheapest, who knows man? just gotta shop around. How much nitrous to you plan on spraying? If it's under a 100 then I'd just go wet single nozzle.

www.nitrousoutlet.com I go to this site for most of my nitrous needs.
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well anouther question is how much can we spray without killing the motor. I was thinking around 100 shot.
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well anouther question is how much can we spray without killing the motor. I was thinking around 100 shot.

Hopefully, some of the tuning guys N2MB, PTP, turbo666 will chime in, but I would think 100shot (off of hom) would be ok.
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well stock block wont last long especially stock oil pump. with a good tune at a 100shot on s3 will be way over 400whp proably around 450 that is about where im at with two stages and everytime i spray i just hope i dont pop it. you have really given us almost no info to really help you. what are you using to tune? what gas will you be running? meth or no? what are your goals? why are you already looking to install nitrous when you havent even installed the turbo? what is the car used for? race car? what tires? do yo plane on using a progressive controller? and cold fusion nitrous kits are great they make lines and noids for alot of other suppliers they have been around a long time. i currently have two stages and both stages are CF one preditor nozzle and one regular fogger.
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ok d money let me answer a few of thoughs and sorry for the no info.rack record set
later we are goin to use dsp to tune
its a dd but once maybe twice a month drag strip.
turbo kit is being installed right now. we just want everything at once to see an end result. ours goals would be around 400- 420 whp.

93 oct fuel street
114 mix with 93 50/50 for strip
would it be better to go with meth injection
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93 oct fuel street
114 mix with 93 50/50 for strip
would it be better to go with meth injection

Your gonna get some varied responses to this one

In my opinion using meth on top of 114 race gas is a waste of money and just complicates the tuning scenario. I would try to get your race/street gas mix more towards the race gas side.

This has been a hotly debated topic. Turbo jack called the guys at nitrous outlet www.nitrousoutlet.com and asked them for their opinion regarding nitrous and methenal. They told him that it hurts nothing so if you already have it on the car then go for it. However, they would not bother with adding it.
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well the 114 will be mixxed so only really seeing around 100
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well for you i would get just a wet kit its really hard to go less than a 100shot on a dp setup. i would start at a 50shot that should put you at about 425whp with a good base tune at about 24-25psi befor spray. it will probably spike to about 26 on it. dont add too much timing and you may be able to get away with only 100 oct. personally if you are going to mix gas try to run the car dead before adding the 114. the more oct. the better. also i run meth because my car is on the verge of knock as a dd. but it also help s alot with egt's, you shouldnt really have that probablem with s3 as i do on the stocker but if you do meth really helps.
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ok thanks guys for the help...
we will go the 114 route do some tunning see how knock looks if its a probblem then we will go with meth and after all that is sorted we will add the nos
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ok thanks guys for the help...
we will go the 114 route do some tunning see how knock looks if its a probblem then we will go with meth and after all that is sorted we will add the nos

Sounds like you have a great build planned. keep us posted man.
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will do buddy. right now i am painting the car satin black, ill finish it up this week and i already got the stg 3r done flight systems eill have the pcm this coming week here. so all is moving along niceoly at this point
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