Thinking of selling the d44 for the d60??? - SRT Forums

SonnySrt-4 · 10-09-2009, 03:28 PM

First off the d44 is a simple yet powerful setup feels great even with it not being fully tuned, pulls awesome and great great spool time, near stock turbo feel as far as spool goes. I actually love this turbo for the last 500 miles this turbo has been the shit...

But I have been reading up on the HTA d60 agp has out and the spool on it seems to be pretty low for such a bigger turbo, that is what draws me to this turbo. alot bigger and still a pretty low spool. Should I sell the d44 for the d60 how much more power would the d60 make over my d44 on say 22 psi for instance?

I am looking to eventually make it a killer street car takin out c6 zo6's and ported gt500's?

Im just thinking in text here guys what yall think?

boostedsohc · 10-09-2009, 03:39 PM

full 60 power u will need a stronger bottom end. 500 miles on delta 44? doubt u even pushed that turbo to the max. stick wit 44. me i love my 44. i dont plan on goin any bigger.

Roc IT Man · 10-09-2009, 03:41 PM

im not sure but i think it goes d40,44,48,55,65 but if there is a 60 that turbo will require some motor work shit even the 55 will need a build head to get the most out of it.

SonnySrt-4 · 10-09-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Roc IT Man

im not sure but i think it goes d40,44,48,55,65 but if there is a 60 that turbo will require some motor work shit even the 55 will need a build head to get the most out of it.

Check agp website/agp vendor section and in the realtune section, there is a billet wheel "HTA style" d60 turbo... Yeah the d60 will require a built block at all out but I know a guy running stock head/block running great... I figure keep the boost semi low tops 22psi.

Should make about what ??hp? more than the d44 at 22psi boost level?

Yeah, I differently have not pushed the d44 too its limit... But like I said the guys I roll around with all run cammed c5 zo6's, cammed ls3 maros, c6 zo6's all of them runnin in the high/mid/low/ 11's I am not 100% certain I could pull on them....lol

SonnySrt-4 · 10-09-2009, 04:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by boostedsohc

full 60 power u will need a stronger bottom end. 500 miles on delta 44? doubt u even pushed that turbo to the max. stick wit 44. me i love my 44. i dont plan on goin any bigger.

get any dyno numbers? track times on it?

I love the turbo...it awesome.... I just think I would love a bigger turbo that kindda retains that lowof a rpm spool time.

Kason23 · 10-09-2009, 05:20 PM

If your going to go with a D60 def get a bottom end build or at least head work. The D44 is good for 420-430whp and close to 500wtq (stock motor,intake mani,TB,Head,etc). More then enough for the stock motor. Anything more and your pushing it. Why would you wanna go to a slower spooling turbo just to make a little more hp and maybe blow something on the motor?? Dont get me wrong Seems all motors go out on different hp levels. But I personally would not go any higher then what I have now unless I was built.

BTW my car (with meth) is neck and neck with a low 600whp KB Cobra (vert) from a roll. He also trapped 127 on shitty DR's at the track. Mine did 122 before the meth. Just need to go back with the meth and get more times.

SonnySrt-4 · 10-09-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kason23

If your going to go with a D60 def get a bottom end build or at least head work. The D44 is good for 420-430whp and close to 500wtq (stock motor,intake mani,TB,Head,etc). More then enough for the stock motor. Anything more and your pushing it. Why would you wanna go to a slower spooling turbo just to make a little more hp and maybe blow something on the motor?? Dont get me wrong Seems all motors go out on different hp levels. But I personally would not go any higher then what I have now unless I was built.

BTW my car (with meth) is neck and neck with a low 600whp KB Cobra (vert) from a roll. He also trapped 127 on shitty DR's at the track. Mine did 122 before the meth. Just need to go back with the meth and get more times.

well shiit, thats some motivation to keep it there. The guys I am talkin about around here only put out a lil shy of 500rwhp. How many psi was you pushin when you raced the kb cobra?

Kason23 · 10-09-2009, 06:35 PM

25/26 on meth of course. its prob a 410whp/450wtq tune

uncommon© · 10-09-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Roc IT Man

im not sure but i think it goes d40,44,48,55,65 but if there is a 60 that turbo will require some motor work shit even the 55 will need a build head to get the most out of it.

Yes, there is a Delta 60 and it's the only HTA out of the bunch.

OP go with the D60. I have it on my stock block and its the best turbo I've had on my car (.63 50 trim, 3147, T04S 60T and now the D60). The spool is faster than the much smaller 3147 that I used to have and it pulls harder than any of the other turbos. I've run 27-28 psi on 100% meth & pump gas for about 7 months now without any bottom end problems. It's in a category of it's own, fast spool & great top end.

Kason23 · 10-09-2009, 06:43 PM

Uncommon dont you have twin pumps and a returnline and meth and all that jazz? you need to dyno and track that sucker

uncommon© · 10-09-2009, 06:46 PM

Not twin pumps. My fuel system is pretty basic to say the least. Walbro 255, -6an feed & return, bottleneck fix and an OBX fuel rail. Over the winter I'm gonna go with twin pumps & -8an feed and return.

Meth kit is a Coolingmist kit with direct port + 1 nozzle in the UPP. (2) 6 quart tanks in the trunk and a coolingmist controller up front. Works pretty well. I've accidentally hit 32-34 psi on pump gas a few times and had 0 knock

I've been hoping to hit the track at least a few times this year, but life has been to busy for me. Between moving and working 60-70 hours a week I just haven't had the chance. I'm hoping to make it to the last track day of the year which happens to be Mopar Day on Oct. 31st.

Kason23 · 10-09-2009, 07:04 PM

Not twin pumps. My fuel system is pretty basic to say the least. Walbro 255, -6an feed & return, bottleneck fix and an OBX fuel rail. Over the winter I'm gonna go with twin pumps & -8an feed and return.

Meth kit is a Coolingmist kit with direct port + 1 nozzle in the UPP. (2) 6 quart tanks in the trunk and a coolingmist controller up front. Works pretty well. I've accidentally hit 32-34 psi on pump gas a few times and had 0 knock

I've been hoping to hit the track at least a few times this year, but life has been to busy for me. Between moving and working 60-70 hours a week I just haven't had the chance. I'm hoping to make it to the last track day of the year which happens to be Mopar Day on Oct. 31st.

I understand. I was tracking the car ALL the time when I was laid off. Now that im working again its 60+ hours a week and I have no time for anything. When my motor decides to go I will build it and go with a BIG turbo lol. Maybe the 6262 or D60 not sure

**supermech21** · 10-09-2009, 07:28 PM

I would never sell a turbo unless i had completly maxed the turbo out...imo. I thjink you'll be surprised to see what it can do with 22-24psi on a 100% balls out tune. You gotta remember your 300 to sometimes 700 lbs less than those big V8's. Power to weight is a bitch...

Kason23 · 10-09-2009, 07:30 PM

Thats true if he put it on 27-28psi and raised the timing some (without knock) he would LOVE it. Its completely different then being on 22psi and lousy pump gas

Adionik · 10-09-2009, 07:56 PM

Stephen is making badass power and destroying everything out here on his D60. Stock head and 2.0 cams.

Obviously, yes, a built head is ideal for every situation, but he's still tearing shit up. He DOES have a built bottom end, which IMO, is much more crucial. And he's corn fed.