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Old 11-07-2012, 05:25 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rhunter View Post
That's not true!! Plenty of cars blew up from big turbo + 25 psi and SAFC tunes!! Plenty!!!

I'm talking about the ones breaking records, like Dansrt4 and the realtune camp.
Not talking about the people that bought a Wastegate ,and wanted to copy others (same psi 25+) without any other mods.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:35 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 View Post
I said I tracked with my old 300HP and 400tq tune. Never said I tracked with the 310/426 tune.

You cannot say I have inflated numbers. You were not there, You dont know of all my mods, or how aggressive my tune was (besides my AFR).

So stop. Its your opinion. But your opinion is not FACT.


What am I lying about then? Are you saying you were lying about your mods the entire time?

Per you...STOCK exh manifold. STOCK 02. So what else would there be for a stock turbo? fmic...exhaust...fuel. Your numbers were INFLATED. 300hp (a measely 10hp difference, lol)..310, doesnt matter.

What's opinionated? Did I opine about your modlist, or is the above fact? Did I opine that 310hp on basically fmic and exhaust on THAT MD is inflated, or is it fact?

I been around the game a LONG time. Modding and tuning. Was doing 300hp on 91oct and a single sprayer of meth on a DJ in 05-06 without portwork longg before the e85 and 300hp craze took effect. I'm not trying to give you a hard time. You just keep replying trying to defend your absurd numbers, and I'm telling you they don't match up.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:40 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Racerxvsspeedracer View Post
I'm talking about the ones breaking records, like Dansrt4 and the realtune camp.
Not talking about the people that bought a Wastegate ,and wanted to copy others (same psi 25+) without any other mods.

Actually,

I have no idea what you are talking about. Other than Nicks car and maybe Tony when he was on the stock turbo, the rest of them were not running a DTEC!!

I personally know of 3 cars that blew up do to the advanced timing that comes with a SAFC tune.

Can you use it? YUP!! But you better have the octane to match it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:46 PM   #109 (permalink)
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It's no different to guys with dsp's turning their timing advance on their handhelds WAY up, and calling themselves tuners these days, lol.

SAFC...map clamp...dtec...DSP. They're all bad tools in the wrong hands. lol
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Im done arguing about it. Youve shit on this thread enough to ruin the point of it. Its your opinion, its not fact. I know what my car made and I know the dyno well. Everyone elses numbers that day werent bullshit. Dyno was set up the same exact way and Ive been on that dyno plenty of times.

You cannot compare my ONE and only shit ass 114.5 MPH test pass to my numbers. Plain and simple. If I had multiple 114 passes, then sure. But I dont. I have ONE pass.

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Drop it cause I dont want to hear it anymore. If you dont believe my numbers then you dont. We all get it that you dont. So leave it be.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:40 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Back on topic please
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Here's a couple dynos from a recent customer using my E85 base tune. Same car different dynos. Definitely a bit on the high side.

341hp 445ft-lb
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Just looking at both underarmorsrt and tunerlover's dyno and trap speeds. They line up pretty well.
Both mustang dynos,
295whp to 300whp at the time,
both trapped 114ish.
So seems pretty on par with each other.

I'm from the area, and boomba's mustang dyno is known to read low or at least not be inflated numbers versus some dynojets..
But dyno's are what they are which is a great tuning tool. Some dynos out there are legit and there's differences between dynojets and mustang dynos. Plus the operator can manipulate the settings, etc. But for this instance these guys numbers seem on par with each other and consistent

But what does does sound questionable is full weight minus spare tire/jack 295whp stock turbo car trapping 117-118. I'd expect at least 320whp on a pretty conservative mustang dyno to see that trap.
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300hp/400tq+ on a MUSTANG DYNO is not doing 114mph traps on a legit MD.
And ok...its a 'low reading MD' at that.. LOL

You expect a stocker that traps 117 to do 320hp on a properly calibrated MUSTANG DYNO...or roughly 360-370hp DYNOJET ? Really?
I can tell you are slightly uneducated..which is fine...but you should read and learn instead of writing and spreading false information.

Lets just stop talking about it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by D-SRT View Post
300hp/400tq+ on a MUSTANG DYNO is not doing 114mph traps on a legit MD.
And ok...its a 'low reading MD' at that.. LOL

You expect a stocker that traps 117 to do 320hp on a properly calibrated MUSTANG DYNO...or roughly 360-370hp DYNOJET ? Really?
I can tell you are slightly uneducated..which is fine...but you should read and learn instead of writing and spreading false information.

Lets just stop talking about it.

Yeah actually i do expect that to trap 117 you'd have to do 320whp on a mustang dyno..
Once again look at tuners car, he recently trapped 117. So you're still saying hes only making the same 300whp that he made at 114?
I think underarmour trapped about 117 too on his mole bws, still 300whp?
Cars that do around 400whp on a dyno jet will typically trap around 119-122 mph, so yeah mayb 117 would be around 350-370whp dynojet numbers. Depends on the dynojet and how its setup too

Any results that you've mentioned in this thread is simply heresay as you can't post any real concrete evidence and you're numbers don't match up..
There's a lot of full weight 300whp stock turbo cars on this forum, not very many 117 trap speeds is there?
I have not posted any false or misleading info.

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Quote: Originally Posted by D-SRT View Post
300hp/400tq+ on a MUSTANG DYNO is not doing 114mph traps on a legit MD.
And ok...its a 'low reading MD' at that.. LOL

You expect a stocker that traps 117 to do 320hp on a properly calibrated MUSTANG DYNO...or roughly 360-370hp DYNOJET ? Really?
I can tell you are slightly uneducated..which is fine...but you should read and learn instead of writing and spreading false information.

Lets just stop talking about it.

Shut the fuck up. For god fucking sakes.

You keep comparing one god damn run i made against my numbers which is bullshit. Stop fucking shitting in this thread. You continue to bring this shit up and its getting old.

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Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 View Post
Shut the fuck up. For god fucking sakes.

You keep comparing one god damn run i made against my numbers which is bullshit. Stop fucking shitting in this thread. You continue to bring this shit up and its getting old.

Yes I trapped 117. In 100 degree weather on mole BWS.

Next. Tuner u made 9 more hp. Your still would trap 114. iirc your trap was 113 in your sig forever. Then I seen 117

Regardless. I was no back seat no truck carpet (-50 lbs maybe) on my 114.8 run.

I didn't dyno my BWS. Pointless.


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Next. Tuner u made 9 more hp. Your still would trap 114. iirc your trap was 113 in your sig forever. Then I seen 117

Thats not the argument Brandon. Hes comparing my numbers to one drag pass I made which is pointless.

Trapped 114 with the stock turbo once and only once. 117 so far with the E1.

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A bit OT but I think this little EF1 Stage 3 is running ok on my E85 custom tune.
458hp 495ft-lb. I think he's traps around 131mph

We may try a MAP clamp or this new frangled "SAFC" I've been hearing about, and see if we can improve upon where we're at,,,,,



Seriously though, any fool advocating a half-ass Map clamp trick is "every bit as good" as a properly E85 calibrated PCM,,,is just that a fool.
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Ok ?? its freaking awesome!!!!!!he is out trapping my 5831. Wtf???


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