Stock Turbo E85 Numbers?

[duster360]

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

I'm pretty sure with a more aggressive AFR, I would have made more.

But really there is not much more to squeeze out on the stock turbo/manifold/o2 housing.

Yes and Yes

[zman17]

So when you throw in porting does the extra airflow increase your power band or top end?


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[tunerlover3]

You may see a gain both in peak and overall powerband.

[zman17]

Also too with say stock turbo or bws would you see a beneficial gain from doing externally gated manifold ?


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[SRT4Delta46]

I wouldn't waste my time with external gate!


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[zman17]

Quote: Originally Posted by SRT4Delta46

I wouldn't waste my time with external gate!


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Out of curiosity why?


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[underSRTarmor]

Quote: Originally Posted by SRT4Delta46

I wouldn't waste my time with external gate!


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while this is true. the gains you see arent what your really lookking at. you wanna see this great HP gain, that isnt what its necessarily designed for...

backpressure and egt will greatly improve over iwg stock turbo.

Quote: Originally Posted by zman17

Out of curiosity why?


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see above

[SRT4Delta46]

It will help for sure but by the time you do all this you could jump on a big turbo


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[D-SRT]

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

Yeah lets compare my ONE 114.5 MPH test pass to my old 300hp-400tq set up and call it bullshit LOL This is a joke.

My car made 310HP and 436 tq on a mustang dyno on my own tune. Never went to the track with that tune so stop comparing my times to a setup/tune I didnt even have yet. There were no correction factors. Boombas dyno is known to read low. Subaru guys get pissed at every dyno day for shit numbers. All the stage 3 cars that day made power numbers similar to what other stage 3 cars do on mustang dynos.

This was a good thread till someone called bullshit. My numbers were never called bullshit before over a year ago. Dont know why all of the sudden now they are "inflated".

310hp/440tq on a "mustang dyno that reads low"....ive heard enough.. I'll let you continue thinking you did roughly 345-350hp/490-500tq on the conservative side (you did say the MD reads low, right?) on a dj with no portwork/02. your trap does not match it! idc if it was only one crappy pass or 10. driver skill doesnt affect the trap speed much...
lol i understand.. it's your car (so of coarse you want to believe it), and you have a vendorship. having high numbers brings customers in, but put that aside and lets be real, those numbers are generous.

I'm not hating on ya. You didn't operate the dyno. No one calls bs because most on here are sheep and just believe what anyone (especially a gold name tag) says on here, lol.

Rhunter, the cars i spoke of have nothing more than the spare tire and rear seats removed.

[Racerxvsspeedracer]

Quote: Originally Posted by duster360

I wrote the first E85 stock turbo tune using my 1025cc injectors on my on car way back on September 2010. I quickly realized that E85 can fill the large performance gap between stock turbo and entry level big turbos. Ever since I've been heavily promoting stock turbo E85 use. Now I am arguably the #1 proliferator of stock turbo E85 tunes with over 200 injector/tune packages sold so far. So most dynos you'll see are using my E85 base tune.

When tunerlover3 was on one of my first E85 base tunes, he made just 9hp less than his current best. As Dan said already the A/F weren't great but shows that there not much more the stock turbo can do.

Most dynos I've seen from my customers range around 290whp all the way up to 341whp. But if you ever ask me what my tunes will do I'd say around "300-325whp--DEPENDING ON THE DYNO"

Now with that said, I will never condone 27-28psi spikes from a stock turbo. Its just too hard on the turbo and the high air temps are counter productive. 20-23psi, which is where my tunes are setup for, is more than enough to deliver great performance without needlessly beating on the turbo.

Funny I posted a thread in 09 about 1 year before you thought of using E85. Called "Tuning with E-85" lots of good info. And got filled with b/s haters at the time and also kicked off the 044 fad. I'm sure you read it.

[zman17]

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

while this is true. the gains you see arent what your really lookking at. you wanna see this great HP gain, that isnt what its necessarily designed for...

backpressure and egt will greatly improve over iwg stock turbo.




see above

Thanks for the info. Prolly right would be just better to jump big turbo


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[Boostinfamily]

really guys, stop this BS arguing, the OP wants to know WHO IS RUNNING IT AND WHAT THEY MADE, AND THEIR MODS, keep your petty contemptious comments back and forth to yourselves or in PM"s, Seriously, we don't need anymore Douchebag comments back and forth here.

[speedypollard]

Well hopefully we can get a mod in here to clean up the bs and some more e85 users to post up...maybe get this stickied?

[duster360]

Quote: Originally Posted by Racerxvsspeedracer

Funny I posted a thread in 09 about 1 year before you thought of using E85. Called "Tuning with E-85" lots of good info. And got filled with b/s haters at the time and also kicked off the 044 fad. I'm sure you read it.

lol silly noob, the simple use of E85 on a stock turbo wasn't anything that needed to be "discovered"

It was figuring out the "How" is what set it off. Wrapping up an Injector + E85 base tune package in a neat little bow, is what put E85 in nearly every tank and my base tune on a heap ton of PCMs. The addition of a Gas tune so that fuel can be easily switched at will, was no small factor either as it easily answered he "limited availability" argument.

SAVE for Boostinfamily Dyno pics----I have a few on the laptop that ill post later

[Boostinfamily]

i dont' have your injectors.. i wanted to get in the group buy, but bought a house instead.. LOL

oh wait.. you may have posted a picture i just can't veiw at work on this slow ass day. which really throws off what your trying to say.