Stock Turbo E85 Numbers?

[speedypollard]

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

Im not gonna post a mod list (because its in countless threads) but I was pretty much bolt on's, stock turbo, stock manifold, stock O2 housing.

310HP and 436TQ at Boomba's mustang dyno. 26-28 PSI spike holding whatever it can. About 30 degrees into boost, high 30's at redline. AFR's were in the high 11's. I tuned it.

Damn that's a high boost spike for the stocker lol but the numbers are awesome and you prolly coulda went a tad bit leaner but I understand being safe...that's what I would want also

[speedypollard]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boostinfamily

Speedy, if you plan on stickign with the stock turbo, anythign that will make it breathe will help to make more power, this includes modified stock manifolds, and O2 housings, and exhuast. However, there will be a point when your going to want more, i know this because of you mentioning that you had an AGP delta on one of your SRT's that you owned and you stated it was alot of fun, so a tiny little idea will pop in your head "if the stock turbo is this great on E85.. what will a BIGGER turbo do on it?" and it will pretty much snowball from there. don't waste the money on the modified stocker manifold, put it to the side and go big, like i know you eventually will.

I also had a 3076r car...that woulda been fun on e85 for sure...the plan for now is to get a clutch and a fuel system and go e85 on the stocker until I get the funds for something bigger like a PTE 5431e or similar

[underSRTarmor]

I did 299 475 on Cobb tuning Plano tx awd mustang dyno. 28.1 psi.

This was on duster 360 base rescale

[n00b-SRT]

^ Exactly the route i was debating vs going Evo turbo.

I of coarse would like to max my stocker.

[speedypollard]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but those torque numbers on a mustang dyno would be close to and over 500wtq on any other dyno...that seems ridiculous for the little stocker...the Evo guys on thier stock turbos aren't even getting that much torque...mine broke the local dyno shop's Evo stock turbo torque record with 430awtq and that was on a dynojet

[tunerlover3]

Quote: Originally Posted by SRT4Delta46

Tuner when you going big turbo on the magic e85?

who knows lol. Im gonna probably wait till I have another srt to DD then build this one.

Quote: Originally Posted by speedypollard

Damn that's a high boost spike for the stocker lol but the numbers are awesome and you prolly coulda went a tad bit leaner but I understand being safe...that's what I would want also

I had some boost issues that day and was trying to quickly lean it out before I dynoed. Did the best I could in the time I had lol

Quote: Originally Posted by speedypollard

Correct me if I'm wrong, but those torque numbers on a mustang dyno would be close to and over 500wtq on any other dyno...that seems ridiculous for the little stocker...the Evo guys on thier stock turbos aren't even getting that much torque...mine broke the local dyno shop's Evo stock turbo torque record with 430awtq and that was on a dynojet

Torque numbers between a dyno jet and mustang dyno would stay about the same. Its the HP numbers that would change. I

[underSRTarmor]

We been over it. No problems no slipping clutch. 4th gear. It was a spike with the boost.


Any ways this is why I hate dyno numbers. I trapped 114.5 and 114.8 with my stocker.


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[n00b-SRT]

What clutch were you using underSRT?

[underSRTarmor]

I've had act hdss for a year and a half now. It was on the car when I bought it.

It been 114 on stocker
117 on BWS
And 125 on 5831.

It's broke an axle
And had over 75 launches/burn outs
10ish - 1.9
30ish 1.8 60fts
2 - 1.7
1 - 1.6

About 10 2 gear burn outs

Hmm alot stress haha. So far so good.


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[speedypollard]

Awesome track times!

[n00b-SRT]

Thats why the track doesn't lie.

Thanks for sharing underSRT, hopefully this information will help me max my stock snail.

[underSRTarmor]

Quote: Originally Posted by n00b-SRT

Thats why the track doesn't lie.

Thanks for sharing underSRT, hopefully this information will help me max my stock snail.

No prob.

I like sharing my success and failures. Help other folks have good success and not make the same mistakes I made. Might save u some money.


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[D-SRT]

Both of those MD #'s seem a little inflated for your traps.

That'd put under and tuner to 335-350hp range. 450-500tq.

Only 114mph trap?
We have locals that had 290-305hp/380-420tq DYNOJET do consistent 115-117 traps.

Not blaming anyone or pointing fingers, Just unless those MD's had a CF to make it read out like a DJ, those were inflated numbers, is all.


That being said, i DO believe you can do 330-350hp out of the stock turbo...just noone with the right setup has done it (aside from a select few that've done 330's.)

[chicagoskittle]

Quote: Originally Posted by D-SRT

Both of those MD #'s seem a little inflated for your traps.

That'd put under and tuner to 335-350hp range. 450-500tq.

Only 114mph trap?
We have locals that had 290-305hp/380-420tq DYNOJET do consistent 115-117 traps.

Not blaming anyone or pointing fingers, Just unless those MD's had a CF to make it read out like a DJ, those were inflated numbers, is all.


That being said, i DO believe you can do 330-350hp out of the stock turbo...just noone with the right setup has done it (aside from a select few that've done 330's.)

you know that its not all about peak numbers right?

[D-SRT]

Quote: Originally Posted by chicagoskittle

you know that its not all about peak numbers right?

Where did you get that I'm 'all about peak numbers' from my above post? My car has been north of 600hp for the past 3yrs, and probably north 700 for the past year...the last thing I care about is 'peak' numbers on a stock turbo, bud.

I'm just iterating the truth. 310hp/450tq on a stock 02/manifold with pretty much no bolt ons aside from fmic/exhaust on a Mustang Dyno that generally reads 12-15% LOWER than a DJ (well suppose to atleast), is unlikely. And the traps show that. Nothing more, Nothing less.