Stock Turbo Batmowheel!!!! - Page 2 - SRT Forums

rrodney24 · 11-21-2012, 11:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DKING246

Don't waste your time. Get a big turbo or s3 kit. By the time you get all the supporting mods for fuel and what not to make decent power, it wouldn't be worth it.

Some people don't want to go big Turbo

rrodney24 · 11-21-2012, 12:21 PM

kid says the car was on sunoco 93

SRT4Delta46 · 11-21-2012, 02:20 PM

Why would you want to put all that money in a stock turbo just to not make much power when all the money you spent could have got you a big turbo kit that gets better gas mileage, better for dd, and more power?

4FishLimit · 11-21-2012, 02:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DKING246

Don't waste your time. Get a big turbo or s3 kit. By the time you get all the supporting mods for fuel and what not to make decent power, it wouldn't be worth it.

Big turbo would be nice, but a big turbo kit with all supporting mods runs what, $3,500 or more? As for S3, I should have jumped on the group buy, but aside from that everyone who sells their used and well worn S3's wants way too much for them.

Something like this replacement wheel, larger injectors and a full turbo back exhaust would run $1,800 using some higher end components. Might even be able to sneak in a used meth kit.

Being that my car is still my DD, right around 300 WHP is perfect for me, I know that's possible with a stock wheeled turbo, but that's a pretty aggressive tune. This wheel looks like it might be able to make that power a little bit easier. Like others said data log would be great to have.

DROID3

DKING246 · 11-21-2012, 02:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mole'

28psi on pump gas with no kn is hard to picture.

Where did it say that?

**04vipersrt4** · 11-21-2012, 03:18 PM

holly batmowheel

it would be cool to be one of these test guroos since i have more supporting mods than most on stock turbo... lol

mole' · 11-21-2012, 03:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DKING246

Where did it say that?

The Tuner posted it up. That's why myself and a few others asked for a datalog.

mole' · 11-21-2012, 03:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 04vipersrt4

holly batmowheel

it would be cool to be one of these test guroos since i have more supporting mods than most on stock turbo... lol

The test car had a good mod list. More then I have on my car

fmgar91 · 11-21-2012, 04:21 PM

Subbed deffinately want more info on this...

**guhfluh** · 11-21-2012, 05:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mole'

28psi on pump gas with no kn is hard to picture.

True, though I have seen it with someone's 47lb stage 3...daily...on 93 pump. His is a FM longblock and a ported stage 3 manifold though, which does make a difference with backpressure, cyl pressure and piston design, etc.

For the price of the Batmowheel, it is hard to justify the gains, unless you already had all of the supporting mods already and even then, a larger turbo kit can be put together for close to the same price if you do your homework and wait for deals. The exhaust restriction in the stock turbo is just hard to overcome, though the small scroll and wheels do make for super quick spool and sick torque.

mole' · 11-21-2012, 05:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guhfluh

True, though I have seen it with someone's 47lb stage 3...daily...on 93 pump. His is a FM longblock and a ported stage 3 manifold though, which does make a difference with backpressure, cyl pressure and piston design, etc.

For the price of the Batmowheel, it is hard to justify the gains, unless you already had all of the supporting mods already and even then, a larger turbo kit can be put together for close to the same price if you do your homework and wait for deals. The exhaust restriction in the stock turbo is just hard to overcome, though the small scroll and wheels do make for super quick spool and sick torque.

If this was done on a stock ext mani, the #s would have gone down for sure. This was done with a ported elbow modded mani that was said to be one of mine. I did not see pics to confirm it tho.

**guhfluh** · 11-21-2012, 07:00 PM

I haven't seen what you have done with a stock manifold, but I doubt it would compare equally to a Bob's ported Stage 3 manifold, just because of the turbine and scroll area differences that they start with. I was saying that less backpressure with a Stage 3 manifold at equivalent boost pressures could lend to easier tuning and a better chance at 28lbs on pump gas.

The price I had seen for a new Batmowheel is the equivalent of a nice used turbo of any size, so even if someone already had money sunk into getting their stock manifold ported and upgraded, it is something to think about. ~300whp isn't a whole bunch for spending a lot of money to get there with a Batmowheel, but a very nice torque curve could prove to be worth it in some people's eyes.

tunerlover3 · 11-21-2012, 07:09 PM

Ive known about this for a while now and its good to finally see SOMETHING about it. My buddy wanted me to test it out earlier in the year but I didnt want to pay for it just to have a BWS like my E1 lol

srt4eh · 11-21-2012, 08:15 PM

I'm waiting to see more info on it before I pull the trigger

rrodney24 · 11-21-2012, 08:57 PM

he just sent this to me on facebook. told me 28psi no knock

11-21-2012, 11:59 AM	#16 (permalink)
rrodney24 SRTforums Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Member Number: 79022 Location: Delray Beach Fl Posts: 622	Quote: Originally Posted by DKING246 Don't waste your time. Get a big turbo or s3 kit. By the time you get all the supporting mods for fuel and what not to make decent power, it wouldn't be worth it. Some people don't want to go big Turbo __________________ Rare Rb1 radio for sale aux and 6 cd http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f418...-input-635972/

11-21-2012, 12:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
rrodney24 SRTforums Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Member Number: 79022 Location: Delray Beach Fl Posts: 622	kid says the car was on sunoco 93 __________________ Rare Rb1 radio for sale aux and 6 cd http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f418...-input-635972/

11-21-2012, 02:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
SRT4Delta46 SRTforums Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Member Number: 88656 Location: Kentucky Posts: 784	Why would you want to put all that money in a stock turbo just to not make much power when all the money you spent could have got you a big turbo kit that gets better gas mileage, better for dd, and more power? __________________ Agp Kit with 5431 Turbo Tuned by Nigel aKa Turbo666

11-21-2012, 02:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
DKING246 SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Member Number: 82074 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 696	Quote: Originally Posted by mole' 28psi on pump gas with no kn is hard to picture. Where did it say that? __________________ Mopar S3-E85-

11-21-2012, 03:18 PM	#21 (permalink)
04vipersrt4 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79138 Location: north carolina Posts: 507	holly batmowheel it would be cool to be one of these test guroos since i have more supporting mods than most on stock turbo... lol __________________ STOCK TURBO no joke!! CNC PORT race head with crower s2 cams, boomba gears DW 750cc injectors kevin warren 1 of 5 billit imput $hafts & $traight cut gears, werks billit 3/4 *CUSTOM* fork, billit shift selector, diablo tuned, tein springs

11-21-2012, 02:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
4FishLimit SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86430 Location: Utah Posts: 163	Quote: Originally Posted by DKING246 Don't waste your time. Get a big turbo or s3 kit. By the time you get all the supporting mods for fuel and what not to make decent power, it wouldn't be worth it. Big turbo would be nice, but a big turbo kit with all supporting mods runs what, $3,500 or more? As for S3, I should have jumped on the group buy, but aside from that everyone who sells their used and well worn S3's wants way too much for them. Something like this replacement wheel, larger injectors and a full turbo back exhaust would run $1,800 using some higher end components. Might even be able to sneak in a used meth kit. Being that my car is still my DD, right around 300 WHP is perfect for me, I know that's possible with a stock wheeled turbo, but that's a pretty aggressive tune. This wheel looks like it might be able to make that power a little bit easier. Like others said data log would be great to have. DROID3

11-21-2012, 03:30 PM	#22 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,843	Quote: Originally Posted by DKING246 Where did it say that? The Tuner posted it up. That's why myself and a few others asked for a datalog. __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

11-21-2012, 03:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,843	Quote: Originally Posted by 04vipersrt4 holly batmowheel it would be cool to be one of these test guroos since i have more supporting mods than most on stock turbo... lol The test car had a good mod list. More then I have on my car __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

11-21-2012, 04:21 PM	#24 (permalink)
fmgar91 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Member Number: 86705 Location: Escondido Posts: 91	Subbed deffinately want more info on this...

11-21-2012, 05:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
guhfluh Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1745 Location: Southeast, LA Posts: 1,786	Quote: Originally Posted by mole' 28psi on pump gas with no kn is hard to picture. True, though I have seen it with someone's 47lb stage 3...daily...on 93 pump. His is a FM longblock and a ported stage 3 manifold though, which does make a difference with backpressure, cyl pressure and piston design, etc. For the price of the Batmowheel, it is hard to justify the gains, unless you already had all of the supporting mods already and even then, a larger turbo kit can be put together for close to the same price if you do your homework and wait for deals. The exhaust restriction in the stock turbo is just hard to overcome, though the small scroll and wheels do make for super quick spool and sick torque. __________________ Hello guhfluh it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?

11-21-2012, 05:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,843	Quote: Originally Posted by guhfluh True, though I have seen it with someone's 47lb stage 3...daily...on 93 pump. His is a FM longblock and a ported stage 3 manifold though, which does make a difference with backpressure, cyl pressure and piston design, etc. For the price of the Batmowheel, it is hard to justify the gains, unless you already had all of the supporting mods already and even then, a larger turbo kit can be put together for close to the same price if you do your homework and wait for deals. The exhaust restriction in the stock turbo is just hard to overcome, though the small scroll and wheels do make for super quick spool and sick torque. If this was done on a stock ext mani, the #s would have gone down for sure. This was done with a ported elbow modded mani that was said to be one of mine. I did not see pics to confirm it tho. __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

11-21-2012, 07:00 PM	#27 (permalink)
guhfluh Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1745 Location: Southeast, LA Posts: 1,786	I haven't seen what you have done with a stock manifold, but I doubt it would compare equally to a Bob's ported Stage 3 manifold, just because of the turbine and scroll area differences that they start with. I was saying that less backpressure with a Stage 3 manifold at equivalent boost pressures could lend to easier tuning and a better chance at 28lbs on pump gas. The price I had seen for a new Batmowheel is the equivalent of a nice used turbo of any size, so even if someone already had money sunk into getting their stock manifold ported and upgraded, it is something to think about. ~300whp isn't a whole bunch for spending a lot of money to get there with a Batmowheel, but a very nice torque curve could prove to be worth it in some people's eyes. __________________ Hello guhfluh it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?

11-21-2012, 07:09 PM	#28 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	Ive known about this for a while now and its good to finally see SOMETHING about it. My buddy wanted me to test it out earlier in the year but I didnt want to pay for it just to have a BWS like my E1 lol __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

11-21-2012, 08:15 PM	#29 (permalink)
srt4eh SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1702 Location: Hawaii... Posts: 2,941	I'm waiting to see more info on it before I pull the trigger __________________ 98 Neon R/T (SRT'd 2.4 with Hahn S20G on full MS standalone) 96 Neon (SRT-4 swap with T-350 trans) 00 Neon SE (in progress full SRT-4 conversion) 13 Dart Rallye (1.4T and 6 speed)

11-21-2012, 08:57 PM	#30 (permalink)
rrodney24 SRTforums Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Member Number: 79022 Location: Delray Beach Fl Posts: 622	he just sent this to me on facebook. told me 28psi no knock __________________ Rare Rb1 radio for sale aux and 6 cd http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f418...-input-635972/

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