Thanks for the leg work fellas. I know where I can get both a S3 manifold and a EVO VIII 16G.
NO PROBLEM...so just send me a redux shifter as your way of saying thanks! ...i'm willing to pay for shipping (cause I'm a nice guy!)
Have you guys mounted the center section in the manifold and checked waste gate fitment? Will I need to relocate the waste gate mounting points? I really want to run a stock or S2 WGA for stock appearance.
yes...the turbo cartridge bolts directly into the s3 manifold, even the locating pin is correct...and the retaining clamp is same also
yes...i have had 2 pieces of aluminum hex cut and bolted to the WGA, then welded to the comp housing, while mounted to mani and connected...so that way locating would be correct
i've never asked before...but is the s2 WGA a stiffer rate spring than the s3 WGA??...anyone know?
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yes...the turbo cartridge bolts directly into the s3 manifold, even the locating pin is correct...and the retaiing clamp is same also
yes...i have had 2 pieces of aluminum hex cut and bolted to the WGA, then welded to the comp housing, while mounted to mani and connected...so that way locating would be correct
i've never asked before...but is the s2 WGA a stiffer rate spring than the s3 WGA??...anyone know?
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Cool, check your PM's
I am also curious about the difference in gate springs.
yes...the turbo cartridge bolts directly into the s3 manifold, even the locating pin is correct...and the retaiing clamp is same also
yes...i have had 2 pieces of aluminum hex cut and bolted to the WGA, then welded to the comp housing, while mounted to mani and connected...so that way locating would be correct
i've never asked before...but is the s2 WGA a stiffer rate spring than the s3 WGA??...anyone know?
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Cool, check your PM's
I am also curious about the difference in gate springs.
PMd ya back!
...i'm unsure of the spring rate diff between the S2 and S3 WGAs? ...but got an AGP WGA on the way!
yes...the turbo cartridge bolts directly into the s3 manifold, even the locating pin is correct...and the retaiing clamp is same also
yes...i have had 2 pieces of aluminum hex cut and bolted to the WGA, then welded to the comp housing, while mounted to mani and connected...so that way locating would be correct
i've never asked before...but is the s2 WGA a stiffer rate spring than the s3 WGA??...anyone know?
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Cool, check your PM's
I am also curious about the difference in gate springs.
PMd ya back!
...i'm unsure of the spring rate diff between the S2 and S3 WGAs? ...but got an AGP WGA on the way!
I have access to very aggressive WGA's(diesel) but being that I am on stock fuel I'll stick with a weaker spring for now.
I have access to very aggressive WGA's(diesel) but being that I am on stock fuel I'll stick with a weaker spring for now.
oh snap ya!
we tried a WGA off of a holset 35 on a 2.5L turbo dodge with garrett T3/T4...DAMN! ...i dont think thier supposed to boost to 30lbs
thank gawd we had race gas in the tank... ...so we switched it back!
we tried a WGA off of a holset 35 on a 2.5L turbo dodge with garrett T3/T4...DAMN! ...i dont think thier supposed to boost to 30lbs
thank gawd we had race gas in the tank... ...so we switched it back!
Yep, it doesn't work out so well on larger turbos. It actually works pretty well on the stock SRT turbo.
jers, post a pic of your compressor housing with the nuts welded on
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what kind of trim would the stage 3 turbo be considered? Compared to like a .50 trim or .60 trim?
"trim" is a ratio from the inducer and exducer measurement. It doesn't really mean anything as far the actual size or how much it flows. If I had the actual measurement of the inducer and exducer of the 16G I could answer your question.
Basically the common 50 trim that is discussed here flows 49lb-min of air. The 16G in question is 36 or 38 from memory.
BTW: Jeremy, I PMed skipdogg about whtmtn's S3R manifold and never received an answer.
what kind of trim would the stage 3 turbo be considered? Compared to like a .50 trim or .60 trim?
"trim" is a ratio from the inducer and exducer measurement. It doesn't really mean anything as far the actual size or how much it flows. If I had the actual measurement of the inducer and exducer of the 16G I could answer your question.
Basically the common 50 trim that is discussed here flows 49lb-min of air. The 16G in question is 36 or 38 from memory.
BTW: Jeremy, I PMed skipdogg about whtmtn's S3R manifold and never received an answer.
true...but is a generally good indicator for comparison's sake
i tend to like the cfm comparison of a turbo's performance, in which case the typical 50 trim T3 and the 16G6 are fairly close in compressor flow numbers
check on page one of this thread, i've posted the dimensions of the S3 inducer and exducer...the 16G6 has a slightly different inducer, but virtually same the same exducer
i can't think of any other's right now...to bad he didnt reply?!
ya, the 20g comp wheel can be found from either turbochargers.com or a place in austrilia (sells the turbochargers.com wheel)...is the 6 blade design, a retails for about $250-300
Is this a reverse rotation 20G wheel? I know that they also do some modding of stock Evo turbo's. I wonder where they sourced this from? Maybe they make them custom?
yes & turbohargers.com
Quote: Originally Posted by jersturbo
buscher racing (david) wil not sell seperate his 20g - 5 blade wheel...he's to busy making on $1300 per conversions
Quote: Originally Posted by -ND4SPD-
I've bugged David so many times... he's just not really interested in doing anything for the SRT-4?
yes, i spoke to dave also, but he's too busy making money...it's a rip off, he's doing it to get even with turbocharger.com...david use to sell & promote the 6 blade 20g, until thier falling out...
...interestingly he helped in the 6 blade 20g design!
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as I mentioned in PM reply to PitViper, that the Evo8 housing with stock 16g6 comp wheel, had compressor surge issues...imagine stuffing the larger 20g wheel into the even smaller S3 housing for a 15gk wheel??
I'd avoid doing so.
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Wow with all this said the 6 blade wheel is not a "custom" unit. It is a stock replacement wheel off a truck with a tdo6 on it (cat out of the bag). It is a very common wheel. Now the 5 blade unit made by david is custom and if you wanted it, it can be had in a few months since he only owns it for that much longer (unless he paid for the mold by now then he gets to keep the casting mold all to himself and we will never see one for the srt-4) There is also the white rabbit wheel but they seem to be having issues with it. I didnt read this whole post so if I am double informing you sorry.
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...i'm willing to pay for shipping (cause I'm a nice guy!) 
...so we switched it back!
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