Stage3 Turbo owners? Post your dyno numbers and setups

[addictedtosin]

Got the car to the track last night. Ran 11.90@118.59 at 22psi spike (20 hold) on pump with a non ported 44lb S3 and bone stock S3 mani. Nothing special but I thought for a feeler run just to start getting the car set up it wasnt too bad. No Hom on my car just an FM reflashed Stage 0 ecu. Threw on the Toyo street radials and made a 12.45 pass at 118.69. Big fun.

[J-SRT4]

Quote: Originally Posted by addictedtosin

Got the car to the track last night. Ran 11.90@118.59 at 22psi spike (20 hold) on pump with a non ported 44lb S3 and bone stock S3 mani. Nothing special but I thought for a feeler run just to start getting the car set up it wasnt too bad. No Hom on my car just an FM reflashed Stage 0 ecu. Threw on the Toyo street radials and made a 12.45 pass at 118.69. Big fun.

Very good!!

[ptperformance]

Quote: Originally Posted by J-SRT4

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

This is blksrt404 car not PTP's (he is doing testing for us)

Support:
25.5 psi falling to 22psi HOM/MEH
S3 SST Compressor 50lbwheel clipped exhaust wheel
735 cc injectors
AGP Race FMIC
Devils Own Progressive W/I
Maxx Fab 3" S Mc3 DP
Needswing DP McCord Open
PNP Head and Intake
Crane 16's/Cam Gears
60mm Zapp
Ultimate Pipes
MSD coil 8.5 wires DIS 4

Ran out of fuel.... waiting for better numbers Dynapac dyno to boot!!!

Nice peak numbers but it looks almost like a big turbo graph or is that just me?? By 3400 rpms you only have 300wtq, with the 44lb I'm around 400wtq @ the same rpm?? Is there any way you can spool it up faster? Good nubers on S3 no doubt!!!
*EDIT* I just saw that the car has a PNP head, Im sure a 44lb S3 would make those same #'s and spool real close to stock S3 full boost 3200-3500! Not knocking it but like most have said it seems as if the 50lb wheel is too big!

A 350 WTQ increase from 2000 RPM to 4000 RPM, how much quicker do you want it to come on? We feel that the stock manifold might be slowing the spool down a bit, so port work will be getting done here very soon. Compair the graph above with stock stage or any upgraded wheel stage 3 and I am willing to bet the usable power curve is better with the 50 lb wheel. I have been told that the car ran 11.47 at 127 last night still needs to be confirmed, but those are the fastest MPH I have found from any stage 3. If a 127 in the 1/4 still makes you think that the 50 lb wheel is to big then I don't know what to say.

[ptperformance]

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by dj4monie

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by dj4monie

Quote: Originally Posted by squishy332000

11.6 at 123 with a 1.70 was my best, i couldn;t hold hom, so im sure with hom i could have ran a bit faster

I am going to say your car is over-tired. You need to work on your suspension and I don't mean K member braces and all of that stuff.

I am only 4 tenths off your best 60ft time with smaller slicks and less power.

As I have said before if Sport FWD cars can get 1.59-1.60 60ft times with 24.5x8.5x15 M&H slicks, then you don't need 26" slicks if you can only muster a 1.70...

Van Natten is in that range with 24.5 slicks, you can do it too...

You have to be kidding me. Your comparing a 13 second car to his?

As for the sport FWD, your talking apples and oranges. Some of those cars are autos and have serious suspension setups. Your also talking about cars with very good boost control.

Your also talking about a car that is in dire need of an alignment, and he is a NEW driver[on slicks]. Not to mention the track he was at isnt very good I hear. With his current setup, he needs the 26s.

Until you get to his level, your talking in theory

Which is why I putting my car together slowly and typical Aaron you know it all, I am sorry.

My car runs 12's in fact the last 3 times down the track - 12.87, 12.88 and 12.74

I have maybe 12 passes total on slicks, lucky I guess I really don't even know what RPM I am launching at, I just rev and go.... Not exactly Rocket Science.

Why would it need an alignment don't people take care of small DETAILS like that ahead of time or you making excuses? Yes serious suspension is required to go fast, duh, why skip it and put more power under the hood? TEIN's are not what you need, they have no pre-load adjustment, I crossed them off my list for that reason.

I have cut 1.74, 1.78 and 1.77 60ft times on tiny 23" slicks, Eibach springs, stock struts and 14psi in the tires. I was doing low 1.8's with 16-17psi in the slicks.

Theory is well placed and its proven you don't need 26" tall tires to run quickly in an SRT-4, Van Natten proved that already he is limited to a 24.5 tire by RULE.

I can assure you DEAD HOOK on 26" slicks and you'll break something, which is one reason WHY the NHRA put a limit on the size of slicks ran in Sport FWD. People were having far too many driveline related failures with larger slicks.

John@M&H has never told me I would need 26" slicks ever, even with S3 and nitrous.

Boost control is very important, I am not totally stupid if you have too much wheel spin, there's always DAB 2 isn't there?

Say whatever you want I am making intelligent choices to build a reliable and fast car. I ALREADY HAVE S3R with Toys, I don't have the other parts yet to get the output I am looking for and I am not going to install it until I have my suspension sorted. When I just can't go any faster, I'll put it on. I believe I can get 12.50's out of the car the way it is...

Again your comparing what you think you can do, with what other people ARE doing. When you get there, than talk about it

Its always nice to talk about it. Hell I stated that 500 WHP could be made with the SST stage 3 and several stated "NO"! Well look at us now..... not to say we made it but we are close. Its always nice to say "look at what I want to accomplish" and when it happens .

There is a difference between someone with knowledge or experience saying.. ''Hey I think I can do this'', compared to someone who isnt close to real world results acting like something is easy.

I do agree with it being fun to talk as Im guilty of the same. However, Im always up to a challenge and realize its not as easy as the internet says it is.

On the topic of slicks, there is a reason why we recommend the 26s, and its over his head.

Gotcha, the internet does make expectations (me to blame as well) that sometimes may not happen.

[aaronneon@RealTune]

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

Quote: Originally Posted by J-SRT4

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

This is blksrt404 car not PTP's (he is doing testing for us)

Support:
25.5 psi falling to 22psi HOM/MEH
S3 SST Compressor 50lbwheel clipped exhaust wheel
735 cc injectors
AGP Race FMIC
Devils Own Progressive W/I
Maxx Fab 3" S Mc3 DP
Needswing DP McCord Open
PNP Head and Intake
Crane 16's/Cam Gears
60mm Zapp
Ultimate Pipes
MSD coil 8.5 wires DIS 4

Ran out of fuel.... waiting for better numbers Dynapac dyno to boot!!!

Nice peak numbers but it looks almost like a big turbo graph or is that just me?? By 3400 rpms you only have 300wtq, with the 44lb I'm around 400wtq @ the same rpm?? Is there any way you can spool it up faster? Good nubers on S3 no doubt!!!
*EDIT* I just saw that the car has a PNP head, Im sure a 44lb S3 would make those same #'s and spool real close to stock S3 full boost 3200-3500! Not knocking it but like most have said it seems as if the 50lb wheel is too big!

A 350 WTQ increase from 2000 RPM to 4000 RPM, how much quicker do you want it to come on? We feel that the stock manifold might be slowing the spool down a bit, so port work will be getting done here very soon. Compair the graph above with stock stage or any upgraded wheel stage 3 and I am willing to bet the usable power curve is better with the 50 lb wheel. I have been told that the car ran 11.47 at 127 last night still needs to be confirmed, but those are the fastest MPH I have found from any stage 3. If a 127 in the 1/4 still makes you think that the 50 lb wheel is to big then I don't know what to say.

Brad went 127 awhile back like I posted. With stock head, cams, intake manifold, and cat back.

At the very least though, for the first time out it shows its doing atleast as good as the other wheels. So its a start

We have Mezs car that will have the same setup as Brads car, but with a built motor/cams and suspension to boot. So it will be a good comparison at a later date

[90VNT]

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

This is blksrt404 car not PTP's (he is doing testing for us)

Support:
25.5 psi falling to 22psi HOM/MEH
S3 SST Compressor 50lbwheel clipped exhaust wheel
735 cc injectors
AGP Race FMIC
Devils Own Progressive W/I
Maxx Fab 3" S Mc3 DP
Needswing DP McCord Open
PNP Head and Intake
Crane 16's/Cam Gears
60mm Zapp
Ultimate Pipes
MSD coil 8.5 wires DIS 4

Ran out of fuel.... waiting for better numbers Dynapac dyno to boot!!!

So is anyone testing this on a stock head. The #s are nice but the I would think most people who would be interested in this type of upgrade would not have a ported head. Who knows how much of an effect that would have on power and more important, at least to me, the curve.Those that do have ported heads most likely have gone and built the entire engine. As much as I like Stage 3, I wouldn't even use it a built engine.

[ptperformance]

Quote: Originally Posted by 90VNT

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

This is blksrt404 car not PTP's (he is doing testing for us)

Support:
25.5 psi falling to 22psi HOM/MEH
S3 SST Compressor 50lbwheel clipped exhaust wheel
735 cc injectors
AGP Race FMIC
Devils Own Progressive W/I
Maxx Fab 3" S Mc3 DP
Needswing DP McCord Open
PNP Head and Intake
Crane 16's/Cam Gears
60mm Zapp
Ultimate Pipes
MSD coil 8.5 wires DIS 4

Ran out of fuel.... waiting for better numbers Dynapac dyno to boot!!!

So is anyone testing this on a stock head. The #s are nice but the I would think most people who would be interested in this type of upgrade would not have a ported head. Who knows how much of an effect that would have on power and more important, at least to me, the curve.Those that do have ported heads most likely have gone and built the entire engine. As much as I like Stage 3, I wouldn't even use it a built engine.

Yes but we don't have numbers from those set ups. This set up has head work but no built motor so take that for what its worth. We did this for many reasons, first being the amount of power that the 49 lb wheel can make. The smaller wheels on the market will run out of CFM and you will have to start leaning them out in order to make the power, lean is not what you want to make power. Its a balance between CFM and expected lag from going bigger. Is a 52 lb wheel going to be to big? Maybe. Is there more in the 49 lb wheel? Maybe. There are lots of maybe's out there and since we are only 3 months into testing this turbo and have only been running the turbo on the test car for 10 days we feel that there is a lot to gain still. Remember this car is only running 25 psi on stock boost control and stock manifold. We have seen gains of 35 WHP with just port work on the stage 3 manifold not to mention we are installing an external gate for this particular car. Will 40 more HP make the car run better at the track, MPH wise yes... trap speeds it could be a gamble. We may loose in other areas that we need gains in and vice versa. Getting the car down the track is the big goal for us and running already at 128.75 MPH is showing that the car has some very good potential. If we hit 135 MPH that should put all the nay-sayers to rest that the PTP stage 3 SST is good for 500 WHP. We have the CFM now its time to put it to work.

[dj4monie]

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by dj4monie

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by dj4monie

Quote: Originally Posted by squishy332000

11.6 at 123 with a 1.70 was my best, i couldn;t hold hom, so im sure with hom i could have ran a bit faster

I am going to say your car is over-tired. You need to work on your suspension and I don't mean K member braces and all of that stuff.

I am only 4 tenths off your best 60ft time with smaller slicks and less power.

As I have said before if Sport FWD cars can get 1.59-1.60 60ft times with 24.5x8.5x15 M&H slicks, then you don't need 26" slicks if you can only muster a 1.70...

Van Natten is in that range with 24.5 slicks, you can do it too...

You have to be kidding me. Your comparing a 13 second car to his?

As for the sport FWD, your talking apples and oranges. Some of those cars are autos and have serious suspension setups. Your also talking about cars with very good boost control.

Your also talking about a car that is in dire need of an alignment, and he is a NEW driver[on slicks]. Not to mention the track he was at isnt very good I hear. With his current setup, he needs the 26s.

Until you get to his level, your talking in theory

Which is why I putting my car together slowly and typical Aaron you know it all, I am sorry.

My car runs 12's in fact the last 3 times down the track - 12.87, 12.88 and 12.74

I have maybe 12 passes total on slicks, lucky I guess I really don't even know what RPM I am launching at, I just rev and go.... Not exactly Rocket Science.

Why would it need an alignment don't people take care of small DETAILS like that ahead of time or you making excuses? Yes serious suspension is required to go fast, duh, why skip it and put more power under the hood? TEIN's are not what you need, they have no pre-load adjustment, I crossed them off my list for that reason.

I have cut 1.74, 1.78 and 1.77 60ft times on tiny 23" slicks, Eibach springs, stock struts and 14psi in the tires. I was doing low 1.8's with 16-17psi in the slicks.

Theory is well placed and its proven you don't need 26" tall tires to run quickly in an SRT-4, Van Natten proved that already he is limited to a 24.5 tire by RULE.

I can assure you DEAD HOOK on 26" slicks and you'll break something, which is one reason WHY the NHRA put a limit on the size of slicks ran in Sport FWD. People were having far too many driveline related failures with larger slicks.

John@M&H has never told me I would need 26" slicks ever, even with S3 and nitrous.

Boost control is very important, I am not totally stupid if you have too much wheel spin, there's always DAB 2 isn't there?

Say whatever you want I am making intelligent choices to build a reliable and fast car. I ALREADY HAVE S3R with Toys, I don't have the other parts yet to get the output I am looking for and I am not going to install it until I have my suspension sorted. When I just can't go any faster, I'll put it on. I believe I can get 12.50's out of the car the way it is...

Again your comparing what you think you can do, with what other people ARE doing. When you get there, than talk about it

Its always nice to talk about it. Hell I stated that 500 WHP could be made with the SST stage 3 and several stated "NO"! Well look at us now..... not to say we made it but we are close. Its always nice to say "look at what I want to accomplish" and when it happens .

There is a difference between someone with knowledge or experience saying.. ''Hey I think I can do this'', compared to someone who isnt close to real world results acting like something is easy.

I do agree with it being fun to talk as Im guilty of the same. However, Im always up to a challenge and realize its not as easy as the internet says it is.

On the topic of slicks, there is a reason why we recommend the 26s, and its over his head.

Who said it was EASY?

Where did you get the impression I said it was easy?

Back up Justin Timberlake I didn't say it was easy. Clarkston says "How diffcult could it be???" I ask the same, I'll know shortly.

I'm starting from the ground up because that's what the car is connected too. You can say its flawed thinking if you want, go ahead.

[aaronneon@RealTune]

Quote: Originally Posted by dj4monie

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by dj4monie

Quote: Originally Posted by aaronneon@RealTune

Quote: Originally Posted by dj4monie

Quote: Originally Posted by squishy332000

11.6 at 123 with a 1.70 was my best, i couldn;t hold hom, so im sure with hom i could have ran a bit faster

I am going to say your car is over-tired. You need to work on your suspension and I don't mean K member braces and all of that stuff.

I am only 4 tenths off your best 60ft time with smaller slicks and less power.

As I have said before if Sport FWD cars can get 1.59-1.60 60ft times with 24.5x8.5x15 M&H slicks, then you don't need 26" slicks if you can only muster a 1.70...

Van Natten is in that range with 24.5 slicks, you can do it too...

You have to be kidding me. Your comparing a 13 second car to his?

As for the sport FWD, your talking apples and oranges. Some of those cars are autos and have serious suspension setups. Your also talking about cars with very good boost control.

Your also talking about a car that is in dire need of an alignment, and he is a NEW driver[on slicks]. Not to mention the track he was at isnt very good I hear. With his current setup, he needs the 26s.

Until you get to his level, your talking in theory

Which is why I putting my car together slowly and typical Aaron you know it all, I am sorry.

My car runs 12's in fact the last 3 times down the track - 12.87, 12.88 and 12.74

I have maybe 12 passes total on slicks, lucky I guess I really don't even know what RPM I am launching at, I just rev and go.... Not exactly Rocket Science.

Why would it need an alignment don't people take care of small DETAILS like that ahead of time or you making excuses? Yes serious suspension is required to go fast, duh, why skip it and put more power under the hood? TEIN's are not what you need, they have no pre-load adjustment, I crossed them off my list for that reason.

I have cut 1.74, 1.78 and 1.77 60ft times on tiny 23" slicks, Eibach springs, stock struts and 14psi in the tires. I was doing low 1.8's with 16-17psi in the slicks.

Theory is well placed and its proven you don't need 26" tall tires to run quickly in an SRT-4, Van Natten proved that already he is limited to a 24.5 tire by RULE.

I can assure you DEAD HOOK on 26" slicks and you'll break something, which is one reason WHY the NHRA put a limit on the size of slicks ran in Sport FWD. People were having far too many driveline related failures with larger slicks.

John@M&H has never told me I would need 26" slicks ever, even with S3 and nitrous.

Boost control is very important, I am not totally stupid if you have too much wheel spin, there's always DAB 2 isn't there?

Say whatever you want I am making intelligent choices to build a reliable and fast car. I ALREADY HAVE S3R with Toys, I don't have the other parts yet to get the output I am looking for and I am not going to install it until I have my suspension sorted. When I just can't go any faster, I'll put it on. I believe I can get 12.50's out of the car the way it is...

Again your comparing what you think you can do, with what other people ARE doing. When you get there, than talk about it

Its always nice to talk about it. Hell I stated that 500 WHP could be made with the SST stage 3 and several stated "NO"! Well look at us now..... not to say we made it but we are close. Its always nice to say "look at what I want to accomplish" and when it happens .

There is a difference between someone with knowledge or experience saying.. ''Hey I think I can do this'', compared to someone who isnt close to real world results acting like something is easy.

I do agree with it being fun to talk as Im guilty of the same. However, Im always up to a challenge and realize its not as easy as the internet says it is.

On the topic of slicks, there is a reason why we recommend the 26s, and its over his head.

Who said it was EASY?

Where did you get the impression I said it was easy?

Back up Justin Timberlake I didn't say it was easy. Clarkston says "How diffcult could it be???" I ask the same, I'll know shortly.

I'm starting from the ground up because that's what the car is connected too. You can say its flawed thinking if you want, go ahead.

Yap Yap

[canadian_made_srt-4]

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

Quote: Originally Posted by 90VNT

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

This is blksrt404 car not PTP's (he is doing testing for us)

Support:
25.5 psi falling to 22psi HOM/MEH
S3 SST Compressor 50lbwheel clipped exhaust wheel
735 cc injectors
AGP Race FMIC
Devils Own Progressive W/I
Maxx Fab 3" S Mc3 DP
Needswing DP McCord Open
PNP Head and Intake
Crane 16's/Cam Gears
60mm Zapp
Ultimate Pipes
MSD coil 8.5 wires DIS 4

Ran out of fuel.... waiting for better numbers Dynapac dyno to boot!!!

So is anyone testing this on a stock head. The #s are nice but the I would think most people who would be interested in this type of upgrade would not have a ported head. Who knows how much of an effect that would have on power and more important, at least to me, the curve.Those that do have ported heads most likely have gone and built the entire engine. As much as I like Stage 3, I wouldn't even use it a built engine.

Yes but we don't have numbers from those set ups. This set up has head work but no built motor so take that for what its worth. We did this for many reasons, first being the amount of power that the 49 lb wheel can make. The smaller wheels on the market will run out of CFM and you will have to start leaning them out in order to make the power, lean is not what you want to make power. Its a balance between CFM and expected lag from going bigger. Is a 52 lb wheel going to be to big? Maybe. Is there more in the 49 lb wheel? Maybe. There are lots of maybe's out there and since we are only 3 months into testing this turbo and have only been running the turbo on the test car for 10 days we feel that there is a lot to gain still. Remember this car is only running 25 psi on stock boost control and stock manifold. We have seen gains of 35 WHP with just port work on the stage 3 manifold not to mention we are installing an external gate for this particular car. Will 40 more HP make the car run better at the track, MPH wise yes... trap speeds it could be a gamble. We may loose in other areas that we need gains in and vice versa. Getting the car down the track is the big goal for us and running already at 128.75 MPH is showing that the car has some very good potential. If we hit 135 MPH that should put all the nay-sayers to rest that the PTP stage 3 SST is good for 500 WHP. We have the CFM now its time to put it to work.

did you mention this car made that HP running a 13.7-14a/f and when they did the fuel system and brought the a/f down to 12.5 on meth the HP droped to 411WHP. Oh and when I saw it ont he dyno it was spiking 27psi and holding 25.5-26 at redline. He did run a PB of 11.4@128 but if his W/I ever plugs up that motor is going to scatter.

Before I get asked how I know this its due to the fact I was getting my car dynoed the same night and they were talking how their numbers were so close to my big turbo built engine blah blah blah but what they forget is I made 453WHP on 94 pump gas straight up no meth no HOM and only 22psi.

I do like how early the power comes on compaired to my GT35 but I dont like how it tapers off I hit 400WHP around 4500rpm and it climbs to 453WHP and holds right to 7200rpm.

[reed32]

Quote: Originally Posted by canadian_made_srt-4

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

Quote: Originally Posted by 90VNT

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

This is blksrt404 car not PTP's (he is doing testing for us)

Support:
25.5 psi falling to 22psi HOM/MEH
S3 SST Compressor 50lbwheel clipped exhaust wheel
735 cc injectors
AGP Race FMIC
Devils Own Progressive W/I
Maxx Fab 3" S Mc3 DP
Needswing DP McCord Open
PNP Head and Intake
Crane 16's/Cam Gears
60mm Zapp
Ultimate Pipes
MSD coil 8.5 wires DIS 4

Ran out of fuel.... waiting for better numbers Dynapac dyno to boot!!!

So is anyone testing this on a stock head. The #s are nice but the I would think most people who would be interested in this type of upgrade would not have a ported head. Who knows how much of an effect that would have on power and more important, at least to me, the curve.Those that do have ported heads most likely have gone and built the entire engine. As much as I like Stage 3, I wouldn't even use it a built engine.

Yes but we don't have numbers from those set ups. This set up has head work but no built motor so take that for what its worth. We did this for many reasons, first being the amount of power that the 49 lb wheel can make. The smaller wheels on the market will run out of CFM and you will have to start leaning them out in order to make the power, lean is not what you want to make power. Its a balance between CFM and expected lag from going bigger. Is a 52 lb wheel going to be to big? Maybe. Is there more in the 49 lb wheel? Maybe. There are lots of maybe's out there and since we are only 3 months into testing this turbo and have only been running the turbo on the test car for 10 days we feel that there is a lot to gain still. Remember this car is only running 25 psi on stock boost control and stock manifold. We have seen gains of 35 WHP with just port work on the stage 3 manifold not to mention we are installing an external gate for this particular car. Will 40 more HP make the car run better at the track, MPH wise yes... trap speeds it could be a gamble. We may loose in other areas that we need gains in and vice versa. Getting the car down the track is the big goal for us and running already at 128.75 MPH is showing that the car has some very good potential. If we hit 135 MPH that should put all the nay-sayers to rest that the PTP stage 3 SST is good for 500 WHP. We have the CFM now its time to put it to work.

did you mention this car made that HP running a 13.7-14a/f and when they did the fuel system and brought the a/f down to 12.5 on meth the HP droped to 411WHP. Oh and when I saw it ont he dyno it was spiking 27psi and holding 25.5-26 at redline. He did run a PB of 11.4@128 but if his W/I ever plugs up that motor is going to scatter.

Before I get asked how I know this its due to the fact I was getting my car dynoed the same night and they were talking how their numbers were so close to my big turbo built engine blah blah blah but what they forget is I made 453WHP on 94 pump gas straight up no meth no HOM and only 22psi.

I do like how early the power comes on compaired to my GT35 but I dont like how it tapers off I hit 400WHP around 4500rpm and it climbs to 453WHP and holds right to 7200rpm.

[canadian_made_srt-4]

edit the WHP droped to 440whp not 411 which is still great but the thing is running on the edge 13.4a/f off w/i with w/i on its 12.5. the boost was spiking almost 27psi it was like 26.79psi and held 25psi right to red line. Apparently there was a large boost leak which I cant see if it was making 26psi but what ever we will see when it hits the dyno again. Remember this is on the stock block too so anymore then 450WHP is really pushing the internals and they are talking about adding a 50shot can you say boom!.

[squishy332000]

how about next time you take the car to a dyno jet? that way we can see if the numbers are any different

[canadian_made_srt-4]

Quote: Originally Posted by squishy332000

how about next time you take the car to a dyno jet? that way we can see if the numbers are any different

what would the point of that be? they have done all base runs on the dyna pak so they can see exactly what each mod gives them if they switch to a dyno jet all the rest of their numbers get flushed.

The dyno jet should read higher peak HP due to the way you load the dyno once that drum gets spinning it helps you make a few HP some say 10-15% if thats the case Jeff's car is already 500WHP on the stock block.

I also dont think this will happen cause the dyna pak gets delivered to the shop instead of driving to the dyno place and risking having to tow the car if it breaks.

[ptperformance]

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

Quote: Originally Posted by 90VNT

Quote: Originally Posted by ptperformance

This is blksrt404 car not PTP's (he is doing testing for us)

Support:
25.5 psi falling to 22psi HOM/MEH
S3 SST Compressor 50lbwheel clipped exhaust wheel
735 cc injectors
AGP Race FMIC
Devils Own Progressive W/I
Maxx Fab 3" S Mc3 DP
Needswing DP McCord Open
PNP Head and Intake
Crane 16's/Cam Gears
60mm Zapp
Ultimate Pipes
MSD coil 8.5 wires DIS 4

Ran out of fuel.... waiting for better numbers Dynapac dyno to boot!!!

So is anyone testing this on a stock head. The #s are nice but the I would think most people who would be interested in this type of upgrade would not have a ported head. Who knows how much of an effect that would have on power and more important, at least to me, the curve.Those that do have ported heads most likely have gone and built the entire engine. As much as I like Stage 3, I wouldn't even use it a built engine.

Yes but we don't have numbers from those set ups. This set up has head work but no built motor so take that for what its worth. We did this for many reasons, first being the amount of power that the 49 lb wheel can make. The smaller wheels on the market will run out of CFM and you will have to start leaning them out in order to make the power, lean is not what you want to make power. Its a balance between CFM and expected lag from going bigger. Is a 52 lb wheel going to be to big? Maybe. Is there more in the 49 lb wheel? Maybe. There are lots of maybe's out there and since we are only 3 months into testing this turbo and have only been running the turbo on the test car for 10 days we feel that there is a lot to gain still. Remember this car is only running 25 psi on stock boost control and stock manifold. We have seen gains of 35 WHP with just port work on the stage 3 manifold not to mention we are installing an external gate for this particular car. Will 40 more HP make the car run better at the track, MPH wise yes... trap speeds it could be a gamble. We may loose in other areas that we need gains in and vice versa. Getting the car down the track is the big goal for us and running already at 128.75 MPH is showing that the car has some very good potential. If we hit 135 MPH that should put all the nay-sayers to rest that the PTP stage 3 SST is good for 500 WHP. We have the CFM now its time to put it to work.

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did you mention this car made that HP running a 13.7-14a/f and when they did the fuel system and brought the a/f down to 12.5 on meth the HP droped to 411WHP. Oh and when I saw it ont he dyno it was spiking 27psi and holding 25.5-26 at redline. He did run a PB of 11.4@128 but if his W/I ever plugs up that motor is going to scatter.

Yes I did mention that they were running out of fuel. 411 is wrong but it looks like you caught that. If his W/I plugs then we will see, if he wants to run it that way he can anything to make the power to make the times at the track, thats what its all about.... right?

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Before I get asked how I know this its due to the fact I was getting my car dynoed the same night and they were talking how their numbers were so close to my big turbo built engine blah blah blah but what they forget is I made 453WHP on 94 pump gas straight up no meth no HOM and only 22psi.

Lets see the chart? Did you make 375 WTQ at redline? I think we had you beat in spool time and WTQ if I am correct. Your track times? That is where we see the proof of which car is faster. Now are you tuned? Because there is another 30 WHP in the stage 3 car with a tune and the manifold alone should net some decent gains. We are starting this upgrade not finished and we will have numbers out very soon that even you will have a hard time hitting, so how about giving us some time to get it all figured out and running "GOOD".

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I do like how early the power comes on compaired to my GT35 but I dont like how it tapers off I hit 400WHP around 4500rpm and it climbs to 453WHP and holds right to 7200rpm

See this is what kills me, another big turbo vs stage 3. You have a GT35R, additional RPM (EMS I suspect), built motor and who knows what else. You are compairing it to a stock block, stock boost controlled, non tuned, stock manifold, big wheeled stage 3??? How is that even fair to compair? Yes you have a great set up and why are you making such low numbers? With the EMS, built motor, head, GT35R, blah blah blah shouldn't you be in the 500's by now? You can compair apples to oranges but even my kid nows the difference, do you?