It's a dynojet. I already flashed it to the Stg 2 ECU lol. Oh well. I've tried selling parts before and it's just a pain in the ass. Plus, if I decide to get a larger turbo sometime down the road, it will be nice to have those 750s. A turbo swap would be easy since I have everything else from the AGP kit.
If you look at the second chart, it shows how Aaron already leaned it out. I'm not going to go back and get it tuned again. I am happy with it. I just don't like to be mislead, that's all. It also should be a heads up to others who are wanting to buy this turbo. If you are going pump gas only and don't want race gas, you should probably just stick with the 40 lb. I would have gained 10 hp alone from just taking the cat out. Plus the tune was very conservative so that the engine doesn't blow up from a bad tank of gas/91 octane/cold weather, which gives me peace of mind. I'm not going to try and squeeze 15 more hp out of it and risk something blowing up. Plus, it probably would have made 420+ with 116 race gas and turning the boost up to say 28 or so, but I don't drag race that much and race gas is hard to come by. I would almost never use it.
Them numbers arent what i thought they were going to be at all..Agp needs to chime in sence they posted whey different numbers on there site on a smaller wheel... Hopefully other people will post there Dyno's of this set up to compare... I'm starting to have second thought on this set up
well UPS has mine coming today.. So if it comes in time for me to get it on ill go to the dyno tonight since they are open till 10pm! But ill prob mix a couple of gallons of 110 in to keep knock outta the question but we will see what happens. Those numbers are low for the wheel thats for sure. But I have not really seen good tunes with the sct anyways as of yet! We will see what 650's and a safc do (prob way worse with my luck )
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Keep in mind guys that the car has an FCBC. I can control how fast or slow the turbo spools.
3 reasons why I let it spool that slow [showed it spooling late]
1] This car was tuned on 93 octane and will be using 91 octane most of the time.
2] He auto Xs the car. Increasing the down low torque will only hinder his performance.
3] These runs were in 3rd gear on the dyno. Full boost is around 3600. In 4th [where he wont be auto Xing..full boost is around 3200.]
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Them numbers arent what i thought they were going to be at all..Agp needs to chime in sence they posted whey different numbers on there site on a smaller wheel... Hopefully other people will post there Dyno's of this set up to compare... I'm starting to have second thought on this set up
Different dynos, different mods.
Also keep in mind this was set to be conservative. You have to allow for a safety net when tuning someones car on pump gas. Even more so when they will be using a lesser octane than what you had to tune with
AGP is a company looking to make sales. they will inflate numbers if necessary. many ways to do so on a dyno.
hell...pit viper did what...417hp(or something very close) on a 3147 at 17psi...basically same turbo i tested. he used the same dyno he used on the 40lb.
no way in hell he dynod 417hp stock head/cams and especially at only 17psi..
the 390 on pump was too
how did he max a turbo out (40lb maxes right around 400 +/-10hp) on pump gas w/o high boost and race gas...
eitherway just be glad w/ the #s
And thank you, sir, for calling me a liar.
I stand by my 3147 dyno, which, btw, AGP had nothing to do with. I bought the turbo from them, and tuned it on a dyno completely unrelated to them. Even Ben thought those numbers seemed really high, but I found out that due to the large amount of fuel I was pulling with the DTEC, my S1 ecu was trying to run 32-35 degrees of timing, which is esentially HOM. When I redyno'd my 3147 later on the SCT flash, with 24 degrees of timing, it made much less power. However, it also didn't knock at 15 psi on pump, so I was much happier with the tune.
As for the S3D 44 lb. wheel, on my car I made 430 tq., 410 hp @ 26 psi on race gas. I don't push my car hard on pump (91 is the suck), so I couldn't tell you what pump numbers you should get out of it.
And thank you, sir, for calling me a liar.
I stand by my 3147 dyno, which, btw, AGP had nothing to do with. I bought the turbo from them, and tuned it on a dyno completely unrelated to them. Even Ben thought those numbers seemed really high, but I found out that due to the large amount of fuel I was pulling with the DTEC, my S1 ecu was trying to run 32-35 degrees of timing, which is esentially HOM. When I redyno'd my 3147 later on the SCT flash, with 24 degrees of timing, it made much less power. However, it also didn't knock at 15 psi on pump, so I was much happier with the tune.
As for the S3D 44 lb. wheel, on my car I made 430 tq., 410 hp @ 26 psi on race gas. I don't push my car hard on pump (91 is the suck), so I couldn't tell you what pump numbers you should get out of it.
This was the second AGP flash that I have delt with. Again the car runs Flawless under normal conditions. I didnt have to pull a thing as the fuel trims were right on target.
To AGPs credit on the rich WOT...this was the rich map they sent [3rd flash in the Xcal]. For some reason the normal map was WAY to lean.
I wouldnt be discouraged by this kit at all. It has tons of potential still in it and the price is pretty good.
guess i just have to get to a dyno and see what the hell im putting down shit...im on 93 octane bout 21psi
then im gonna do a c16 26psi pull and see the diff.
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Sorry this is so late but I had a long ride back from Cleveland.
Now, I don't want to start a HUGE controversy, but here are the results of my 44 lb Stg 3 delta.
(Sorry if you can't read the scans well.)
The first image is the result of my turbo after Aaron's tune. The second image compares AGP's original SCT flash map to Aaron's revised map. As you can see, the rich map from AGP is REALLY REALLY rich in the middle (it's off the chart). My point is that, although Aaron did everything he could to tune this turbo to its max on just pump gas, I feel somewhat misled by AGP. The boost is 22.5-23 PSI. Any questions please let me know. These dynos were on 93 pump gas, no meth or race gas. Aaron tuned them for 0 to 1.5 knock, which is somewhat conservative. However, this is still a fair amount less than AGP had me expecting based on the description on their website.
In case you can't see the images, final numbers were 358 whp, 364 wtq.
Guess you called it . . . oh well. It still spools up great and feels wicked fast.
nice numbers! Do you plan to take it down the 1/4 soon or are you strictly auto X??
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..Agp needs to chime in sence they posted whey different numbers on there site on a smaller wheel... Hopefully other people will post there Dyno's of this set up to compare... I'm starting to have second thought on this set up
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