Recipe for 10's? - SRT Forums

9Formula8 · 01-20-2008, 09:13 PM

As of now I basically have the stock turbo maxed out besides cams and motor work. I have a nice amount of money saved so far and with my recent pay increase I have been saving about 1200 a month extra. I want to finish the car this summer. The thing is my goal is 10's... Here is what I was thinking.

GT35r kit
CNC ported head
Unsure of what cams to get.. With a ported head I read to get 18's or bc stage 3's?
Built bottom end
AGP tuned computer(or would you suggest something different?) Maybe NDE TCS on top if this isnt offered through AGP. And WOT box. Or just go with aem ems? I am close to n2mb. I was thinking the agp because of the stability like stage 3.
Maybe dtec to fine tune if need be, and I will need a boost controller if I go the agp route.
Coilovers
Clutch.

It is my daily driver so what else would need to be done. Such as tranny work to support it. Precautions to make sure everything wont crap out on me real fast. I am fine being down with no car for a small amount of time, Work is 2-3 miles away so that is no problem.
Just looking for suggestions on my summer build. Once it is all done I may be picking up a daily driver.
Keep in mind I have no care what so ever as to how the car drives. Love lumpy cammed v8 cars so a rough ride is fine by me.

**supermech21** · 01-20-2008, 09:34 PM

Ass hat response - Stage 3 toys + Nitrous + Slicks + Driver mod = 10.90's @ 127ish

Competent response -
3076r
Pro seres head
Crane 16's
Random built bottom end (8.0:1)
DCR iling package
DCR crank strap
AEM EMS
750cc
255 FP
Return line
IC pipes
W/I
South bend stg 3 clutch
H brace / trac bars
solid mounts
solid LCA bushing
Coil overs

Thats all the major ish...your going to get varried responses. Some think this way is better than that way, vice versa. Stage 3 with a driver will get there(gut the interior, slicks, bolt ons, and small shot WILL DO IT). My opinion 35r is to big and will be to much to re spool during shifts, bigger doesnt always equal better quarter times. And if the 3076r doesnt get you there a small shot will. Another option is ported stg 3 with big wheel. Expensive but questionably the best street / strip turbo (that will start a fight). I wouldnt mess with re flashes with the level of peformance you want. Your talking about all these add ins (WOT box, TCS, Re flash, piggy back), dont waste your money, get a laptop and a ems.

PM DCR, give him a price...he will recomend option B more than likely and im willing to bet a large sum of money on the pro series head as well...its the best...and the most expensive

Neon Kid · 01-20-2008, 10:40 PM

GT35r .82kit
255 fuel pump
750cc injectors
Dcr race cylinder head
Dcr oil package with pick up tube
Mp 8:5:1 bottom end kit
Mp crane 18's Top end kit
Box style manifold
60mm throttle body
Fuel return line
44mm wastegate
Suspension work
No gas or H2o
AEM ems
This setup is a easy mid high 10 if tune right and slicks on 2step and mid 10 with 2 step and WOT shift. There is something in the EMS that will bring your rpms down when you are WOT shifting instead of boucing of the rev limiter. Forgot the name of it. Be sure you use the E boost 2 controller for you can set the boost in each gear.

If you dont want to go that route then get a E3 with anti surge Mp's top end kit, stock bottom end, 750cc injectors, Safc, slicks and a DCR throttle body. it should get u there in the high 10 without toys.

All of this should be done on 93 Exxon gas No gas.

**supermech21** · 01-20-2008, 10:52 PM

your planning on running mid 10's on pump gas....

I think your planning on running 10 counts knock retard and were shooting for 10 et's...

to each his own, but running 10 seconds in the quarter with pump gas and no water meth is about as smart as putting your hand in a blender and trying catch a blade... And to top it off you want to run 8.5 compression....you couldnt even throw in a DCR 5 layer HG to bring it down some....sorry bud but you have some research to do....

never2muchboost · 01-20-2008, 10:57 PM

just stop by and talk to us, i wouldnt waste much time talking about how to get in the 10's just come ask someone who already has

ghost-1 · 01-20-2008, 10:58 PM

Yes do lots of research before you buy anything.

**supermech21** · 01-20-2008, 11:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ghost-1

Yes do lots of research before you buy anything.

your not alowed to post....you kind of jumped over 10's...your set up should be around the 9's

joejamesatou · 01-20-2008, 11:02 PM

Step One: Get to 600 hp
Step Two: Lot's o' suspension/chassis work (cage)
Step Three: Drive

**supermech21** · 01-20-2008, 11:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by joejamesatou

Step One: Get to 600 hp
Step Two: Lot's o' suspension/chassis work (cage)
Step Three: Drive

I dont think 600 is needed....i think in the 450-500 realm will get 10.80-11.5....but of course the second 2 are needed

LeadPipe · 01-20-2008, 11:10 PM

I'd go with the AEM and the AEM boost solenoid for boost control.

DRASTIC. · 01-20-2008, 11:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21

to each his own, but running 10 seconds in the quarter with pump gas and no water meth is about as smart as putting your hand in a blender and trying catch a blade... And to top it off you want to run 8.5 compression....you couldnt even throw in a DCR 5 layer HG to bring it down some....sorry bud but you have some research to do....

lets be realistic. you wouldnt even make it down the strip w/ pump gas and a build built for "10's".

and the 5layer HG only brings it down .015...so if you were 8.5:1, it'd take it down to 8.65:1. after you get the head resurfaced and installed, you're right back 8.5

ghost-1 · 01-21-2008, 12:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21

your not alowed to post....you kind of jumped over 10's...your set up should be around the 9's

DGR8srt · 01-21-2008, 06:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost

just stop by and talk to us, i wouldnt waste much time talking about how to get in the 10's just come ask someone who already has

I agree ^^^

Neon Kid · 01-21-2008, 08:58 AM

I know what im talking about. It has been done before. If you have the right tuning device (AEM EMS) and a real good tuner ( too many to list) It can be done. I have seen guys make around 500whp on pump gas with out water meth, no knock with a 35r. and 8:5:1 compresson is for the turbo if you NOT trying to go all out with it. 8:0:1 compression is for you can go all out with the turbo plus water meth to prevent detonation and gas. My opinion on the 8:0:1. Everybody has there own way to make to make decent power but when u making big power, You need know how to hook it up or that will cost seconds on your time. You just might dont need all that power to run 10sec if you got the traction. Before you start, Start asking or leave some threds before you comment on my post(s) cause you will get beat with experience not with ignorance. This is life. Got to crawl b4 u walk. Each of its own.

Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21

your planning on running mid 10's on pump gas....

I think your planning on running 10 counts knock retard and were shooting for 10 et's...

to each his own, but running 10 seconds in the quarter with pump gas and no water meth is about as smart as putting your hand in a blender and trying catch a blade... And to top it off you want to run 8.5 compression....you couldnt even throw in a DCR 5 layer HG to bring it down some....sorry bud but you have some research to do....

**supermech21** · 01-21-2008, 10:39 AM

548 SAE whp on 93 pumpgas!! 561 uncorrected

This is just one example of how low compression can benefit you. There is a LOT of info on the first page alone, just read it and learn. I dont want to whore this guys thread up with stupid bickering plus i dont have the time to constantly check in here. If you would like to discuss more then please pm me.