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pt cruiser motor in srt4??/

I sold my srt a year or so ago but still have friends that have them. A buddy of mine just blew his motor and is looking for a stock replacement. Just wondering if someone could tell me what the difference in the pt cruiser long block and the srt motor are? I was under the assumption that there was no difference in the long block and only the intake was different. i found a 03 out of a wrecked nsrt4 for 2500$ . I also found a 08 pt cruiser turbo motor (non GT) for 1200$ with around the same miles... will it work? The power rating on nada for a 08 pt turbo is only 180hp and the earlier models were listed at 220hp. Will this 08 motor bolt up???? Are the cams and bottom end the same as the srt motor? I hope some one of the PT guys can chime in.

also, what about a Csrt motor? Will it drop in? is it worth the money? He has a 50trim setup with hahn portfueler setup and a detech i believe.Could change to dsp if needed. Thanks ahead of time for you help guys.

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do research its all over this forum use the search function

but a pt cruiser gt motor and a neon srt4 motor is the same
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CSRT motor is a world motor which I believe is a hyundia motor(don't quote me on that I just remember reading something that said it was a hyundia motor) so it is not the same and will not bolt up either way.

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I did search on the forums and even googled my face off. The search option on this site brought up nothing. I just wanted to confirm on a site that has yet to steer me wrong in 6 years. I did end up finding some info on the csrt motor. It is as you say, a world hyundai motor. The csrt4 motor will not bolt up to the nsrt tranny. Its pretty much out of the question now and not worth the trouble. The srt motor is proven and makes plenty of power. It would be different if we found a whole csrt4 wrecked or something.

So does anyone know why the non gt pt's with turbos only made 180 and the gt version made 215/230??? I imagine it was only a boost level difference and/or tune difference. Just wanted to make sure there isn't a parts difference because the 08 motor I found is the 180hp version.

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I did search on the forums and even googled my face off. The search option on this site brought up nothing. I just wanted to confirm on a site that has yet to steer me wrong in 6 years. I did end up finding some info on the csrt motor. It is as you say, a world hyundai motor. The csrt4 motor will not bolt up to the nsrt tranny. Its pretty much out of the question now and not worth the trouble. The srt motor is proven and makes plenty of power. It would be different if we found a whole csrt4 wrecked or something. Thanks for you help guys.
I would not waste your time with a CSRT drivetrain. Too much fabrication and not worth it.

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as long as the engine code is an A85X ( with X being the variable 3 or 5) it will work.
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Your right ther motors out of the srt and the pt are the same. I just bought a 08 2.4 turbo for 300.00 on saturday from a local dealership. The custormer ran the wrong gas in the car and was afraid they had engine damage so they did a new motor(money than brains).
So far i cant find anything wrong with it but I will doing another motor build soon so i have a backup motor.
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The regular pt cruisers were n/a and not made to make higher hp but the turbochrged engine was made for its sole purpouse to put out power and they are completely different engines in everyway
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In a PT Cruiser, the 180hp version is call a 'turbo lite'.
Only difference being the PCM.
Slap a S1 pcm in a turbo lite and it's the same power as a GT.
It's the same block as the earlier GTs
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it is not the same block they are totally different!!!!!!a n/a 2.4 doesnt have any of the coolant lines tapped into the block a n/a motor doesnt have oil squirters a n/a block has different compression pistons has a different crank a different oil pump a different everything
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it is not the same block they are totally different!!!!!!a n/a 2.4 doesnt have any of the coolant lines tapped into the block a n/a motor doesnt have oil squirters a n/a block has different compression pistons has a different crank a different oil pump a different everything
Read close yourself. We're not talking about N/A PT's. We're talking about 180hp PT "Turbo-Lite" engines, which again HAS THE SAME LONGBLOCK AS THE SRT-4 AND PT GT's. The only difference between a 230 hp PT and the 180hp PT was the PCM calibration. Thats it. Seriously. Done.

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Just get a replacement shortblock from your local dealer,
I get them all the time for guys around here @ $ 1175.00
3 year 36,000 mile warranty.

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Read close yourself. We're not talking about N/A PT's. We're talking about 180hp PT "Turbo-Lite" engines, which again HAS THE SAME LONGBLOCK AS THE SRT-4 AND PT GT's. The only difference between a 230 hp PT and the 180hp PT was the PCM calibration. Thats it. Seriously. Done.
Excuse my post seno'r i did think he was talkin about a pt 2.4
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1175 for a short block...that seems low from dodge lol
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