edited the post ^^ was hydrohopper...in new S3 feeedback thread, remarked about a garrett wheel, wasnt sure if he meant his S3 (because it was being the discussion) or of a different (previous) turbo (gt30r)??
Send a PM to Ed (ptc01), I believe that picture is from his upgraded stage3 and he had it done somewhere locally by a person who's not a forum vendor.
yup...he and Tex are the only other people i know (besides myself) to have different than stock S3 wheels (mods to S3 turbo)...
...pct01 has an upgraded compressor wheel (16G or 20G?) and clipped turbine wheel
okay...some info pasted (and asked about in other thread "s3 owners feedback 2");
since the "HR" wheels have basically (literally) been mirror image casting of thier 'clockwise' counterparts, these flow numbers should be the same for the "HR" versions...
...interestingly enough, on the GReedy site, they list the turbos (but no other info, maps, etc)...but in thier list i found:
- td04h-15g (8.5cm)
- td05sh-18g (10cm)
- td06sh-25g (8cm)
...the "h" designations set them appart in the list ("h" supposed to mean reverse rotation)
they have listed a td05 with 18g wheel (flow = ?)...and there is a "h" 25g wheel (on a td06h)?
...both of these ^^^ are listed elsewhere as available upgrades for the Evo7/8 model!
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Last edited by jersturbo : 10-06-2006 at 03:27 AM.
...interestingly enough, on the GReedy site, they list the turbos (but no other info, maps, etc)...but in thier list i found:
- td04h-15g (8.5cm)
- td05sh-18g (10cm)
- td06sh-25g (8cm)
...the "h" designations set them appart in the list ("h" supposed to mean reverse rotation)
they have listed a td05 with 18g wheel (flow = ?)...and there is a "h" 25g wheel (on a td06h)?
...both of these ^^^ are listed elsewhere as available upgrades for the Evo7/8 model!
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The H doesn't refer to reverse rotation, it indicates a larger turbine wheel. The letter R following the td06/td06h would indicate a reverse rotation turbo.
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they must be a complete replacement for the evo. because the 25g and all of those are standard rotation wheels (i wonder how much work is required to alter the engine bay to take a standard turbo vs a reverse turbo?)...and i have yet to even hear of them in reverse. see if you can find any pics.
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...interestingly enough, on the GReedy site, they list the turbos (but no other info, maps, etc)...but in thier list i found:
- td04h-15g (8.5cm)
- td05sh-18g (10cm)
- td06sh-25g (8cm)
...the "h" designations set them appart in the list ("h" supposed to mean reverse rotation)
they have listed a td05 with 18g wheel (flow = ?)...and there is a "h" 25g wheel (on a td06h)?
...both of these ^^^ are listed elsewhere as available upgrades for the Evo7/8 model!
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The H doesn't refer to reverse rotation, it indicates a larger turbine wheel. The letter R following the td06/td06h would indicate a reverse rotation turbo.
no, really!! (sarcastic intended)...
...that would be the point of me saying at the page top:
Quote:
since the "HR" wheels have basically (literally) been mirror image casting of thier 'clockwise' counterparts, these flow numbers should be the same for the "HR" versions...
...not "these are "HR" spec wheels"!
Last edited by jersturbo : 10-10-2006 at 06:41 PM.
ya, its intersting to see...i cant find any HR specs for 18g (white rabbit?)...but thought these might help some?
...now if only we could get a 25 HR, eh?
Quote: Originally Posted by Tex
they must be a complete replacement for the evo. because the 25g and all of those are standard rotation wheels (i wonder how much work is required to alter the engine bay to take a standard turbo vs a reverse turbo?)...and i have yet to even hear of them in reverse. see if you can find any pics.
Is there a way to make for sure I got the right turbo shpped to me. I measured the inlet its ony like 2in to 2 and a 1/4. Hahn says its supposed to be 2 1/2. Oh I ordered the s20g. The invovice says 20g on. I was looking for partnumber but none matched what I could find. Got any other ideas. Or could someone post pics of theirs so I could compare?
. if you were to take the second picture and measure the OD (which is standard size) and ID (asumed inducer size) it appears to be close to a 20g wheel. if the 20g is roughly a 44lb/hr, than what does boosted planet use?
after doing some more searching on their site, and looking at power ratings, i am 100% confident that this is a 20g! sooooooooo...what the hell is a 47lb/hr wheel?????????
interesting...without knowing the exact dimensions, that one does appear to be a billet wheel, is 6 blade just as the 20g-6
Quote: Originally Posted by Tex
after doing some more searching on their site, and looking at power ratings, i am 100% confident that this is a 20g! sooooooooo...what the hell is a 47lb/hr wheel?????????
do you know what is the exact model from garrett?...i can not find any listing...
...however, do you mean to say lb/min...and is it 47 or 49 lb/min?
for some comparison:
here is a td05-hr-16g6 map, which shows it about max 30 lb/min flow rate at 2.8 presure ratio...
the TD05H-18G features the 40 lb/min performance of the Mitsubishi TD06 18G compressor wheel combined with the quick response of the TD05H turbine wheel.
here is the most interesting tid-bit, also off the same site, and a look at the garrett 49 lb/min compressor wheel...
...my guess is that just like mitsubishi, garrett has taken an existing compressor wheel, and simply cast it in mirror-image, to make it reverse rotation!
Quote:
...is a true Garrett/Mitsubishi hybrid featuring the 49 lb/min race proven performance of a proprietary Garrett compressor wheel combined with the high efficiency and quick response of the Mitsubishi TD06H turbine wheel in a 7cm2 nozzle area turbine housing.
here is one that is 520 hp capable, using a 52 lb/min compressor wheel...
...I want this one!
Quote:
is an outstanding performer featuring a proprietary state-of-the-art 52 lb/min Garrett GT compressor wheel (with an unheard of 79% maximum efficiency) combined with a race proven proprietary Garrett turbine wheel
the site is a mitsu turbo dealer as well...so i think that that option is infact a 20g. im just wondering if they are infact the same, and the rating is just "hyped"
also, i cannot find ANYTHING from garrett that is reverse. the gt2876/3076 runs a standard 47lb/min wheel...so its that size. and that puts it a healthy improvement over the 20g.
the way i see it here,
1. garrett made a small run of reverse wheels for a very limited market...seems odd for a company that makes millions with what they have, though mitsu did it with the 16gR for the evo's and the 15gkR for the TM evo (what we stole)
2. someone spend lots of money casting a new wheel for their own benifit...TCC/DB did it
3. its a different brand wheel...again doesnt seem plausiable because we cant find anything online. 10 years ago that wouldnt be proof enough, however, because every company is out to make a profit, and how do you make a profit if you dont advertise.
4. someone is artificially inflating information...that never happens...i think we might have our winner!!!
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. if you were to take the second picture and measure the OD (which is standard size) and ID (asumed inducer size) it appears to be close to a 20g wheel. if the 20g is roughly a 44lb/hr, than what does boosted planet use?
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