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Old 11-19-2008, 03:49 PM   #61 (permalink)
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11.9 on the gas scale.... Oh and congrats... you rock
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:16 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by NemoFoss View Post
11.9 on the gas scale.... Oh and congrats... you rock

Yeah, that was on a gas calibrated Wideband. .81 Lambda, if that helps at all.

Thanks for the compliments!
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:27 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
Chuck, isnt the 67mm near choke flow at our altitude? If you think it can go higher then no complaints here! Engineer mike claimed something like only 60lb/min flow potencial at our elevation even though its 75lb/min at sea level.

As intelligent as Mike is (and don't get me wrong, I wouldn't even dream of challenging him to a physics competition), I think sometimes he may read into things a little too much. There is always some variable that may not be taken into account.

With 32 PSI, I'm only using 80 - 82% duty cycle from the boost controller. I would have gone higher on the boost, but I'm already scared enough as it is to continue running it at 32 PSI. I'm certain that I haven't run the turbo out of steam yet, as you can see by the dyno graph, the drop off in power is minimal, at the very worst!

If I were dropping power significantly before redline, I would agree that I was at the limits of the turbo. But being that it is maintaining a steady curve that minimally drops off right at the redline, I'd have to say the turbo has at least another 50 HP in it!

Going from 28 PSI to 32 PSI yielded a 80 HP gain over my last dyno session. That's a gain of 20 HP per PSI. Granted, some of the power could be attributed to the E85. But I have a hard time believing that pushing the turbo another 4 PSI couldn't at least yield another 50 HP or so. That would be a return of 12.5 HP per PSI.

All this is only speculation, and only time will tell. But when it comes right down to it, I'd have to say this setup works VERY well and efficiently, and will be even better when I can extend my redline into the 8k territory. If I'm not satisfied with the turbo alone, there is always the option to top it off with some spray! And if that doesn't do it, it's on to a T4 footprint!
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:29 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I am guessing mine would top out earlier. Huge H cover on the compressor but I have a 4 bolt .63 instead of your 5 bolt .82. (its a 5 bolt right?).

I love the p trim wheel. Superrunner is running a new wheel that supposedly spools like the P trim but flows a lot more....a "GTX" wheel or something like that. Maybe the t3 housing is the plug in the system though Not that its a plug right now though. I always get pissed because the 67mm map is not public. I don't understand the reason.
I have the same desire to add 1000 rpms onto my revs in order to widen the powerband.
Your 2-3 shift sucks doesn't it? Maybe if this setup will let you powershift......

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I am guessing mine would top out earlier. Huge H cover on the compressor but I have a 4 bolt .63 instead of your 5 bolt .82. (its a 5 bolt right?).

I love the p trim wheel. Superrunner is running a new wheel that supposedly spools like the P trim but flows a lot more....a "GTX" wheel or something like that. Maybe the t3 housing is the plug in the system though Not that its a plug right now though. I always get pissed because the 67mm map is not public. I don't understand the reason.
I have the same desire to add 1000 rpms onto my revs in order to widen the powerband.
Your 2-3 shift sucks doesn't it? Maybe if this setup will let you powershift......

It's actually a 5-bolt .63 Precision housing (which AMS claims flows just as well as a .82 garrett).

As for my 2-3 shift, yeah...it sucks! 3rd gear is a P.O.S. in these trannys! That will all be fixed soon enough, though. I have a fully billet shift fork, a new 3/4 syncro, a twin disc, a billet input shaft with a longer 1st gear ratio, and a few other goodies. It should, for the most part, alleviate the issues with shifting. If not, DEATH will become the car!
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if you decide to do that let me know first so I can get that drivetrain and turbo setup...
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if you decide to do that let me know first so I can get that drivetrain and turbo setup...

I don't think I could allow it! If the twin disc and billet fork don't solve the shifting issues, I could only conclude the car is CURSED! And we can't be passing on curses like those! They must be destroyed! Eradicated from the face of the earth!
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congrats man that is sick
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Congrats. Now get out to the track & see what you can get the car to do.

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Sorry, but you're going to have to continue to IMPATIENTLY wait until late April next year!

If you didn't already know, it ran 11.24 @ 129.77 MPH with the 550 WHP tune, so I can only speculate around a high 10.XX @ 135'ish!
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Quote: Originally Posted by chuck's_srt-4 View Post
Sorry, but you're going to have to continue to IMPATIENTLY wait until late april next year!


Your track is closed until April too? I'm in the same boat

I'd be itching to get to the track with a newfound 80 whp.
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Your track is closed until April too? I'm in the same boat

I'd be itching to get to the track with a newfound 80 whp.

Yeah, it's the suxors... I edited that post with my best time with the old tune, and a speculated new time...purely speculation.

I speculate it will do better than that with the accelerator shaft, though!
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Yeah, I saw your times from before. Now it's time for you to shatter the stock block 1/4 mile record.

I think 135's should be easy if you've gotten your clutch/trans issues figured out.
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that would be worth a drive to somewhere a little lower in elevation with a track still open...
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chuck let me know if you want me to get you a .82 precision housing like i did for my 37r, i will be glad to make the call!
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