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SRT4FL · 11-09-2012, 02:41 PM

I wasn't sure if over pressuring the stocker would damage the diaphragm in side somehow. Since I will be utilizing my stock turbo for a while this is just nice to know.

**Zenkat** · 11-09-2012, 03:37 PM

I test my surge to 30psi as well, and it's never been a problem. Only problem i do have is blowing the pink line off under high boost. I had to double ziptie both ends of the pink line to make it stay put.

I ran the times in my sig with a stock surge valve, no blue plate, all stock vacuum lines on still.

Mind you I HAVE blown out 2 surge diaphragms before. On bone stock turbo no less, and not on my more powerful turbo setups. Try to figure that one out, lol. There are cheap replacement kits on ebay, though, so no worries.

SRT4FL · 11-09-2012, 03:53 PM

And to think.....people just want aftermarket to "sound cool" on the stock setup lol, I have seen more problems with these aftermarket pieces than the factory.

**glhs837** · 11-09-2012, 09:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Zenkat

I test my surge to 30psi as well, and it's never been a problem. Only problem i do have is blowing the pink line off under high boost. I had to double ziptie both ends of the pink line to make it stay put.

I ran the times in my sig with a stock surge valve, no blue plate, all stock vacuum lines on still.

Mind you I HAVE blown out 2 surge diaphragms before. On bone stock turbo no less, and not on my more powerful turbo setups. Try to figure that one out, lol. There are cheap replacement kits on ebay, though, so no worries.

Dont know that you have blown them out, I think remember back in the day, there was a spate of bad ones where the material was thin and could split.

Cor430vette · 11-09-2012, 10:19 PM

Lets analyze the stupidest mods for stock turbo....

1. BOV ....HKS what $250 new? and pipe kit 150? 400 bucks = zero HP if you buy it used will probably leak ...so you will lose HP...-5 hp
2. Intake...250 bucks...= if your lucky 3 to 5 HP

So for over 650 dollars you get a range of 5 to -5 hp ..?

Why not get a trinity tuner for less then that crap ...and add 30 Hp ? Dink about it...

Try following this ....
SRT-4 Performance Modifications and Upgrade Paths

Teerav · 11-09-2012, 11:36 PM

Ok I get it lol you don't have to try and make me fell stupid. It was just a thought. That is the point of a forum. And I've already said that I ain't doing it lol. But I've actuality learned a bit and ty to the ppl that told the reasons to not do it. I get it and I've said that I'm new to turbos and haven't got it all down. But anyways hope you guys have a great night cuz I'm fuuuuuuckkkked up like my brothers check book!

**Zenkat** · 11-10-2012, 12:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by glhs837

Dont know that you have blown them out, I think remember back in the day, there was a spate of bad ones where the material was thin and could split.

I had a spare one, unknown history, that i used on my BWS reliably til the BWS itself failed. Shortly after going back to bone stock turbo i ruptured the diaphragm on it. Took the one that came with my car originally, stuck it on, made 5 passes at the track and blew out the diaphragm on that one. It's just weird, since my stock turbo didnt push the PSI or power my BWS or S3 did.

By blow out, i definitely mean split the diaphragm material. I just dunno how a weak turbo could rupture it so easily, twice vs. a much stronger one.

tunerlover3 · 11-10-2012, 06:19 AM

Dat stock turbo spike is what causes it LOL

**underSRTarmor** · 11-10-2012, 06:27 AM

I'm on my 2nd Srt. I'm faster than most above me. I been doing it for years since 05. I do all of my own work except tuning I leave that up to the best. Duster in my case! Mindmelt and Nigel are great too. BUT,Both I repeat both of my srts had stock turbos with hks bovs. Must of done well I ran a 12.2 on stock turbo with a pissy 1.89 60ft. Oh ya and zero problems. I've ran 28 psi on stock turbo and 27 psi big turbo. Still, no problems!!!!

Now put the hks on if you want. If you want the sound do it. Don't listen to all these haters. Now with all this said the stock surge valve is good but we all know its quite. I must me a ricer. (A fast one haha).

So do it!

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SRT4FL · 11-10-2012, 06:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

I'm on my 2nd Srt. I'm faster than most above me. I been doing it for years since 05. I do all of my own work except tuning I leave that up to the best. Duster in my case! Mindmelt and Nigel are great too. BUT,Both I repeat both of my srts had stock turbos with hks bovs. Must of done well I ran a 12.2 on stock turbo with a pissy 1.89 60ft. Oh ya and zero problems. I've ran 28 psi on stock turbo and 27 psi big turbo. Still, no problems!!!!

Now put the hks on if you want. If you want the sound do it. Don't listen to all these haters. Now with all this said the stock surge valve is good but we all know its quite. I must me a ricer. (A fast one haha).

So do it!

Autoguide.com App

You are so rice I'm gunna call u uncle Ben

I kid I kid
But didn't you have BWS on yours? And if so your the exception because race car

**underSRTarmor** · 11-10-2012, 06:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by SRT4FL

You are so rice I'm gunna call u uncle Ben

I kid I kid
But didn't you have BWS on yours? And if so your the exception because race car

I did. But I ran a 12.2 on stock and a 12.1 on BWS now I got 5831.

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SRT4FL · 11-10-2012, 06:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

I did. But I ran a 12.2 on stock and a 12.1 on BWS now I got 5831.

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I guess I could have looked at your sig... 0_o
I don't have anything against aftermarket except the fact that people just like the sound, like posted above, take that money and invest in a programmer and a custom tune. Something more beneficial performance wise than just noise. No hater here lol.

**underSRTarmor** · 11-10-2012, 07:24 AM

I agree it is a waste but isn't it all?? Haha just a hobby, my wife says its all a waste. = )

But if you like it you like it.

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SRT4FL · 11-10-2012, 07:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

I agree it is a waste but isn't it all?? Haha just a hobby, my wife says its all a waste. = )

But if you like it you like it.

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Very true man, my wife can't understand why I spend so much money on a car,which is probably a good thing because I always put a spin on it like, " Honey I need this trinity to make sure the car is running safe" but really I just wanna go faster lol.

tunerlover3 · 11-10-2012, 08:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

Now put the hks on if you want. If you want the sound do it. Don't listen to all these haters. Now with all this said the stock surge valve is good but we all know its quite. I must me a ricer. (A fast one haha).

So do it!

We arent "hating". Id rather save the kid 400 bucks then spend that on a noise maker.

11-09-2012, 02:41 PM	#31 (permalink)
SRT4FL Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Member Number: 85452 Location: Cape Coral FL Posts: 752	I wasn't sure if over pressuring the stocker would damage the diaphragm in side somehow. Since I will be utilizing my stock turbo for a while this is just nice to know. __________________ 2003 SRT-4 SOLD 2011 TOYOTA TACOMA DC 4x4 acquired RIP 40ROLL

11-09-2012, 03:37 PM	#32 (permalink)
Zenkat Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 10522 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,053	I test my surge to 30psi as well, and it's never been a problem. Only problem i do have is blowing the pink line off under high boost. I had to double ziptie both ends of the pink line to make it stay put. I ran the times in my sig with a stock surge valve, no blue plate, all stock vacuum lines on still. Mind you I HAVE blown out 2 surge diaphragms before. On bone stock turbo no less, and not on my more powerful turbo setups. Try to figure that one out, lol. There are cheap replacement kits on ebay, though, so no worries. __________________ 11.21@127.88

11-09-2012, 03:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
SRT4FL Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Member Number: 85452 Location: Cape Coral FL Posts: 752	And to think.....people just want aftermarket to "sound cool" on the stock setup lol, I have seen more problems with these aftermarket pieces than the factory. __________________ 2003 SRT-4 SOLD 2011 TOYOTA TACOMA DC 4x4 acquired RIP 40ROLL

11-09-2012, 09:48 PM	#34 (permalink)
glhs837 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Feb 2003 Member Number: 215 Location: So. Maryland Posts: 14,797	Quote: Originally Posted by Zenkat I test my surge to 30psi as well, and it's never been a problem. Only problem i do have is blowing the pink line off under high boost. I had to double ziptie both ends of the pink line to make it stay put. I ran the times in my sig with a stock surge valve, no blue plate, all stock vacuum lines on still. Mind you I HAVE blown out 2 surge diaphragms before. On bone stock turbo no less, and not on my more powerful turbo setups. Try to figure that one out, lol. There are cheap replacement kits on ebay, though, so no worries. Dont know that you have blown them out, I think remember back in the day, there was a spate of bad ones where the material was thin and could split. __________________ I used to own one of the first SRT-4s sold, bought it new in Feb 2003, sold it Nov 2006 with 75K and Stage 3. Now I drive a 2006 SRT-8 Charger.

11-09-2012, 10:19 PM	#35 (permalink)
Cor430vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Member Number: 78320 Location: constant flux Posts: 1,261	Lets analyze the stupidest mods for stock turbo.... 1. BOV ....HKS what $250 new? and pipe kit 150? 400 bucks = zero HP if you buy it used will probably leak ...so you will lose HP...-5 hp 2. Intake...250 bucks...= if your lucky 3 to 5 HP So for over 650 dollars you get a range of 5 to -5 hp ..? Why not get a trinity tuner for less then that crap ...and add 30 Hp ? Dink about it... Try following this .... SRT-4 Performance Modifications and Upgrade Paths __________________ The mind creates a false mind-made self that casts a shadow of fear and suffering... 2008 black Corvette / 2004 black SRT4 Owned 2004 and 2005 SRT4 both sold...this is my 3rd friggin one...what the fugs wrong with me?? http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f169...l-help-634159/ http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f75/...w-pics-630960/ http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f25/...ummary-569367/ Last edited by Cor430vette; 11-09-2012 at 10:24 PM.

11-09-2012, 11:36 PM	#36 (permalink)
Teerav SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Member Number: 90805 Location: Anderson sc Posts: 17	Ok I get it lol you don't have to try and make me fell stupid. It was just a thought. That is the point of a forum. And I've already said that I ain't doing it lol. But I've actuality learned a bit and ty to the ppl that told the reasons to not do it. I get it and I've said that I'm new to turbos and haven't got it all down. But anyways hope you guys have a great night cuz I'm fuuuuuuckkkked up like my brothers check book!

11-10-2012, 12:00 AM	#37 (permalink)
Zenkat Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 10522 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,053	Quote: Originally Posted by glhs837 Dont know that you have blown them out, I think remember back in the day, there was a spate of bad ones where the material was thin and could split. I had a spare one, unknown history, that i used on my BWS reliably til the BWS itself failed. Shortly after going back to bone stock turbo i ruptured the diaphragm on it. Took the one that came with my car originally, stuck it on, made 5 passes at the track and blew out the diaphragm on that one. It's just weird, since my stock turbo didnt push the PSI or power my BWS or S3 did. By blow out, i definitely mean split the diaphragm material. I just dunno how a weak turbo could rupture it so easily, twice vs. a much stronger one. __________________ 11.21@127.88

11-10-2012, 06:19 AM	#38 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	Dat stock turbo spike is what causes it LOL __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

11-10-2012, 06:27 AM	#39 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,736	I'm on my 2nd Srt. I'm faster than most above me. I been doing it for years since 05. I do all of my own work except tuning I leave that up to the best. Duster in my case! Mindmelt and Nigel are great too. BUT,Both I repeat both of my srts had stock turbos with hks bovs. Must of done well I ran a 12.2 on stock turbo with a pissy 1.89 60ft. Oh ya and zero problems. I've ran 28 psi on stock turbo and 27 psi big turbo. Still, no problems!!!! Now put the hks on if you want. If you want the sound do it. Don't listen to all these haters. Now with all this said the stock surge valve is good but we all know its quite. I must me a ricer. (A fast one haha). So do it! Autoguide.com App __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable Last edited by underSRTarmor; 11-10-2012 at 06:30 AM.

11-10-2012, 06:34 AM	#40 (permalink)
SRT4FL Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Member Number: 85452 Location: Cape Coral FL Posts: 752	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor I'm on my 2nd Srt. I'm faster than most above me. I been doing it for years since 05. I do all of my own work except tuning I leave that up to the best. Duster in my case! Mindmelt and Nigel are great too. BUT,Both I repeat both of my srts had stock turbos with hks bovs. Must of done well I ran a 12.2 on stock turbo with a pissy 1.89 60ft. Oh ya and zero problems. I've ran 28 psi on stock turbo and 27 psi big turbo. Still, no problems!!!! Now put the hks on if you want. If you want the sound do it. Don't listen to all these haters. Now with all this said the stock surge valve is good but we all know its quite. I must me a ricer. (A fast one haha). So do it! Autoguide.com App You are so rice I'm gunna call u uncle Ben I kid I kid But didn't you have BWS on yours? And if so your the exception because race car __________________ 2003 SRT-4 SOLD 2011 TOYOTA TACOMA DC 4x4 acquired RIP 40ROLL

11-10-2012, 06:48 AM	#41 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,736	Quote: Originally Posted by SRT4FL You are so rice I'm gunna call u uncle Ben I kid I kid But didn't you have BWS on yours? And if so your the exception because race car I did. But I ran a 12.2 on stock and a 12.1 on BWS now I got 5831. Autoguide.com App __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

11-10-2012, 06:55 AM	#42 (permalink)
SRT4FL Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Member Number: 85452 Location: Cape Coral FL Posts: 752	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor I did. But I ran a 12.2 on stock and a 12.1 on BWS now I got 5831. Autoguide.com App I guess I could have looked at your sig... 0_o I don't have anything against aftermarket except the fact that people just like the sound, like posted above, take that money and invest in a programmer and a custom tune. Something more beneficial performance wise than just noise. No hater here lol. __________________ 2003 SRT-4 SOLD 2011 TOYOTA TACOMA DC 4x4 acquired RIP 40ROLL

11-10-2012, 07:24 AM	#43 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,736	I agree it is a waste but isn't it all?? Haha just a hobby, my wife says its all a waste. = ) But if you like it you like it. Autoguide.com App __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

11-10-2012, 07:54 AM	#44 (permalink)
SRT4FL Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Member Number: 85452 Location: Cape Coral FL Posts: 752	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor I agree it is a waste but isn't it all?? Haha just a hobby, my wife says its all a waste. = ) But if you like it you like it. Autoguide.com App Very true man, my wife can't understand why I spend so much money on a car,which is probably a good thing because I always put a spin on it like, " Honey I need this trinity to make sure the car is running safe" but really I just wanna go faster lol. __________________ 2003 SRT-4 SOLD 2011 TOYOTA TACOMA DC 4x4 acquired RIP 40ROLL

11-10-2012, 08:16 AM	#45 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor Now put the hks on if you want. If you want the sound do it. Don't listen to all these haters. Now with all this said the stock surge valve is good but we all know its quite. I must me a ricer. (A fast one haha). So do it! We arent "hating". Id rather save the kid 400 bucks then spend that on a noise maker. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

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