Looking at Kinetic Motorsports 50 Trim..input?

[J'SRT-4]

Looking to get the Kinetic 50 Trim kit. Anyone have any input on other mods that need to be done with it?

I want 350HP max PSI <18 and DAILY driver....is that possible with this kit?
Do I need to upgrade my PCM...I have Stage 0.

If anyone can direct me to some good posts on 50 trim kits from kinetic that would be great. Need to edumacate myself......

Cheers!

[71ValiantSRT-4]

I made 441/451 with this setup. Talk to Clay and tell him Kane sent you. They are good guys.

[J'SRT-4]

Is this the Kinetic Motorsport out in Surrey, BC?
Appart from the Turbo, manifold, wastegate, downpipe and oil upgrade is there anything else I [i]need?
I have stage 0.....do I need a new PCM or flash?
Is a map clamp or new injectors...fuel pump needed?
I am gonna go out there pretty soon to talk to Clay then. Appreciate any input before and after though.

Thanks Kane
JR

[addictedtosin]

For a 50 trim you will need a complete fuel system. 255lph pump. a fuel computer like the Dtec or Apexi Neo or flash like the SCT. and a set of 750cc injectors. That should cover the fuel.

[71ValiantSRT-4]

Quote: Originally Posted by J'SRT-4

Is this the Kinetic Motorsport out in Surrey, BC?
Appart from the Turbo, manifold, wastegate, downpipe and oil upgrade is there anything else I [i]need?
I have stage 0.....do I need a new PCM or flash?
Is a map clamp or new injectors...fuel pump needed?
I am gonna go out there pretty soon to talk to Clay then. Appreciate any input before and after though.

Thanks Kane
JR

Like Addicted said. You'll need fuel mods as well. And yes they are located in BC.

[charleston123]

if your looking for 350hp max why wouldnt you consider something like a sst or e1? just wondering

[J'SRT-4]

Welllll.... maybe a bit more than 350HP The E1 or SST are interesting but I guess cause Kinetics is local it seems like a good choice for the work.

I just want to know some background stuff before I go in and talk to them. I mean getting the big 50 Trim is great but I don't want to blow my car up leaving the place. So with your input saying I NEED a fuel pump, injectors and AFC Neo fuel management system that is an extra $1000 (plus labour assuming I don't do it all myself...)

So with the big turbo kit plus the fuel upgrade I am covered as a 'daily driver' with huge power potential.

Could I still run this setup with the stock ECM? I don't NEED to upgrade to stage 1 or 2?
I have a 3" turbo back exhaust, external tial BOV, kinetic wastegate as mods...

Thanks

[West Palm SRT4]

With the 50trim kit (50 trim, manifold, dump tube, waste gate) you will need the following to support the turbo with fuel: Walbro 255 fuel pump, 650cc or 750cc fuel injectors, a return line kit, and something to tune fuel delivery with. An SAFC, DTEC, SCT Flash, AEM EMS are all good for this.

The SAFC or DTEC will be the cheapest way for you to fine tune fuel delivery and also acts as a map clamp as well, allowing you to run more boost then the stock PCM will allow you to without throwing a code and making your car run like shit.

The SCT flash is nice to but the only downside is it's a canned tune. It does have a lot better drivability then an SAFC/DTEC does though.

And of course, the AEM EMS will let you fine tune everything no problem, but is very costly.

[West Palm SRT4]

Quote: Originally Posted by J'SRT-4

Welllll.... maybe a bit more than 350HP The E1 or SST are interesting but I guess cause Kinetics is local it seems like a good choice for the work.

I just want to know some background stuff before I go in and talk to them. I mean getting the big 50 Trim is great but I don't want to blow my car up leaving the place. So with your input saying I NEED a fuel pump, injectors and AFC Neo fuel management system that is an extra $1000 (plus labour assuming I don't do it all myself...)

So with the big turbo kit plus the fuel upgrade I am covered as a 'daily driver' with huge power potential.

Could I still run this setup with the stock ECM? I don't NEED to upgrade to stage 1 or 2?
I have a 3" turbo back exhaust, external tial BOV, kinetic wastegate as mods...

Thanks

I suggest new plugs and wires, a new intercooler, and an intake to fit that 50 trim.

[71ValiantSRT-4]

And a clutch. Your stage 0 will do just fine.

[J'SRT-4]

Quote: Originally Posted by West Palm SRT4

With the 50trim kit (50 trim, manifold, dump tube, waste gate) you will need the following to support the turbo with fuel: Walbro 255 fuel pump, 650cc or 750cc fuel injectors, a return line kit, and something to tune fuel delivery with. An SAFC, DTEC, SCT Flash, AEM EMS are all good for this.

The SAFC or DTEC will be the cheapest way for you to fine tune fuel delivery and also acts as a map clamp as well, allowing you to run more boost then the stock PCM will allow you to without throwing a code and making your car run like shit.

The SCT flash is nice to but the only downside is it's a canned tune. It does have a lot better drivability then an SAFC/DTEC does though.

And of course, the AEM EMS will let you fine tune everything no problem, but is very costly.

Hmmm..... SO the SCT flash is a one time deal eh? Are you generally adjusting the SAFC/DTEC regularly or leave it tuned once it's setup?

I am looking for the best drivability. I want some serious power but still gonna go to and from work each day....plus the wife gets the groceries....and there is the 5000-1000km road trips.

I guess I am looking for "50 trim, manifold, dump tube, waste gate, 255 fuel pump, 650cc or 750cc fuel injectors, a return line kit and an SCT flash or SAFC/DTEC"....plus some labour....so like $4000........
Again, this will work with a stage 0 ECM?
Anyone like near Vancouver, BC???

[J'SRT-4]

Quote: Originally Posted by West Palm SRT4

I suggest new plugs and wires, a new intercooler, and an intake to fit that 50 trim.

I will be getting an intercooler and plugs and wires probably a good bet too.

thanks

[71ValiantSRT-4]

Sct would be your best bet for driveability. You wont need a returnline if you get the SCT tuner. And with a piggyback like Dtec and safc you will be adjusting it. And yes, stage 0 will work.

[J'SRT-4]

Quote: Originally Posted by 71ValiantSRT-4

Sct would be your best bet for driveability. You wont need a returnline if you get the SCT tuner. And with a piggyback like Dtec and safc you will be adjusting it. And yes, stage 0 will work.

So the SCT is a one time deal then. I went to their website but not 100% clear. THere is a dealer imy area....do I go there after all my 50 trim and just get a flash? Or do I need to continue performing updates?

Is there any info on this in the forums somewhere...searching 3 letter words sucks.

Cause by not having to get a fuel return kit it saves like $400.

[71ValiantSRT-4]

Contact Agp on the Sct setup. They flash the tuner with 3 tunes and you put them on your ecu. You can email them at anytime and they will customize your tune for you, free of charge.