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Old 11-04-2012, 03:20 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah well my plan is to.rev the f*ck outta this thing

Il def leave feedback once its done i wanna run avenger head fuy ported bigger valves.. crane 26 cams with a big.fat snail

So revvin is.more then nessesery
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Yeah well my plan is to.rev the f*ck outta this thing

Il def leave feedback once its done i wanna run avenger head fuy ported bigger valves.. crane 26 cams with a big.fat snail

So revvin is.more then nessesery

RPMs in that case are needed, and to the guy doing the EF2 7500 RPMs would be fine for that with a good head.

On a side note 700hp can be made on a regular set up on a SRT head and a not so big turbo, so you are waisting money that you will need for drive train parts.
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Yeah well my plan is to.rev the f*ck outta this thing

Il def leave feedback once its done i wanna run avenger head fuy ported bigger valves.. crane 26 cams with a big.fat snail

So revvin is.more then nessesery

This is another misconception using an avenger head. No need the stock head flows much better than most know, with bigger valves It's right up there with the best.
Unless you want the turbo in the front , lose half your cooling system go for it.
Turbo cars don't need that big of a cam 26+ is for all motor.

You would save so much $$ running long rods FM has a great combo already, built Srt4 head+ crane 18,20 or bc stage 3 or 4 or Bc daddy cams. Then run a 6266 or up to get where you want. With a 8,500 rpm and our stroke you will get there FAST!

Doing it another way is going to cost you $ time and headaches! IMHO
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This is another misconception using an avenger head. No need the stock head flows much better than most know, with bigger valves It's right up there with the best.
Unless you want the turbo in the front , lose half your cooling system go for it.
Turbo cars don't need that big of a cam 26+ is for all motor.

You would save so much $$ running long rods FM has a great combo already, built Srt4 head+ crane 18,20 or bc stage 3 or 4 or Bc daddy cams. Then run a 6266 or up to get where you want. With a 8,500 rpm and our stroke you will get there FAST!

Doing it another way is going to cost you $ time and headaches! IMHO


i agree with you on the head the head does flow great with the right person working on it....and thats a massive cam for a turbo car remember the cam grind is specifiacally designed for valve openings for that kind of rpm and ive seen with my own two eyes someone on a 67mm turbo spinning it just to 7800 rpms and have the best powerband i have ever saw
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Josh?? Yeah i know i wanna run a forward facing turbo thats why avenger head
Crane 24/26 bc my.brother ran them in his 2.0l n had great results
Wanna destroke motor to.see 10k revs
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Josh?? Yeah i know i wanna run a forward facing turbo thats why avenger head
Crane 24/26 bc my.brother ran them in his 2.0l n had great results
Wanna destroke motor to.see 10k revs

You got 2k just to spend on crank!
You want 10k ,build a 2.0l neon motor and put it in your Srt4.
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I have revved The 2.4l to 10k without major issue, I have a billet crank now to see if crank deflection is kept to a minimum I have smashed a bearing or two revving The stock crank that high billet 2.4 should make it much easier on bearings.
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I have revved The 2.4l to 10k without major issue, I have a billet crank now to see if crank deflection is kept to a minimum I have smashed a bearing or two revving The stock crank that high billet 2.4 should make it much easier on bearings.

It's the poor Rod ratio, and piston speeds that are the problem.
Why can't you rev under 8,500 and make power and break records? No need for this 10k Honda crap, I could see if you're running All Motor... But we are using turbos different world, and ways to get there.
People that want to Rev to 10k+ will need short stroke,big bore,good Rod Ratio and low piston speeds.

With our motor we need to set it up different.
We have big stroke, so It's long rod + bigger bore raise CR and good amount. Keep Rev limited to 8,500 which should be more than enough. Turbo selection will be the hardest, but lots to choose from.
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'revved to 10k no problems'...

'just smashed a few bearings along the way'..




Great! Lets post that the stock rod angle ratio/stroke is ok to rev to 10k to the average viewer on here that doesn't know anything...
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If someone could mod the old 2.2l crank to work, then we would have a better option.
And it would be a 2.3l when It's all done.
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Racer.... I dont want a 2.0l motor

I swapped the srt motor into my 1g im not swapping back.jst to rev it
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'revved to 10k no problems'...

'just smashed a few bearings along the way'..




Great! Lets post that the stock rod angle ratio/stroke is ok to rev to 10k to the average viewer on here that doesn't know anything...

Rod length 5.944 in
Crank stroke 3.976 in (101.0 mm)
= 1.50 Rod Ratio and is crap for Reving to 10k Lol
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Just a fyi i have a 98 acr with srt swap... Not a srt
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FM Rods
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=1.55 Rod ratio still not there but its better than stock.
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Just a fyi i have a 98 acr with srt swap... Not a srt

Ok It's doesn't matter.
You still don't need to rev past 8,500. This motor will make more than enough power,and still have a great powerband at that level.
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