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Yeah man, I hope he takes care of me. The turbo has 50-60 miles on it the most. Never went past 8-10lbs of boost.
I have never even gone wot on my new engine build yet.
Soo disappointed, I am beginning to grow tired taking this turbo in and out of the car.
It happens owning a neon I hope I don't have these problems when i get my car running. Good luck on getting it fixed

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post #17 of 760 (permalink) Old 03-27-2012, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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It happens owning a neon I hope I don't have these problems when i get my car running. Good luck on getting it fixed
Thanks man, should be sending it out end of this week.
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Thanks man, should be sending it out end of this week.
Did you ever solve this problem? I was under the impression that bad turbo seals would not cause EXTREME smoking?

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bump for an answer as well.

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never seen EXTREME smoking from a turbo.
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The turbo oil seal was defective. It was sent back to MAP and warrantied. The turbo is currently on its way back to me and I will have it running by this weekend..
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Got the turbo back from Bob last week. It had a defective oil seal. The seal was replaced. I reinstalled the turbo in the car. Before starting the car i unplugged the coil and cranked it for afew seconds, just enough to get oil to the turbo to prime it. I then plugged in the coil and started the car. I let it get to operating temp and then drove the car literally 2 miles at cruising speeds in a residential area. The car smokes just as bad now as it did before. I took the turbo off and the band clamp had oil in it again, just like it did before i sent it out to get the seal replaced. While the turbo was off i checked to make sure that the oil return line wasnt clogged by inserting a wire coat hanger down the return line. It was clear. Im very confused by this whole situation.

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sucks dude.

gotta be coming from some place.

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maybe it's NOT the turbo.

how do the plugs look.

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Ehh its gotta be the turbo. I keep getting oil in the band clamp
the #1 plug looked slightly damper than the rest
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Some pics of where I stand.

As you can see here, there is oil sitting in the band clamp. Every time i crank it over oil accumulates here. The oil seal in the turbo has just been replaced.
I spoke to bill at MAP today he swears up and down that the new oil seal is good. He was helpful aside from what i felt was rushing me off the phone.

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I took the exhaust side down just to get a look at the exhaust ports on the back of the head. They looked damp and oil coated. I dont know what my next step will be. I will most likely remove the head and check the cometic head gasket which has 455 miles on it. As does my engine build.

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Any body have any ideas where the oil burning may be coming from?
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if you're saying the exhaust ports on the head are oil coated, only thing i can think of is oil past the exhaust valve guides. i'd expect the plugs to show signs of that. i'd check your intake manifold as well, just to cover everything.

to bad you're not closer, i'd love to look it over with my own eyes.

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I did reply in the PM as well, but i figure I would explain what we did while diagnosing your setup.

-Part dimensions (turbine shaft, and turbine seal bore in CHRA) were inspected for wear, and dimensions, all were within spec.
-Turbo was rebuild, and balance was verified
-Turbo was run in our VSR balancer with heated, pressurized oil, with no leaking past the seal.

On all accounts, with multiple checks, the turbo is good in our eyes.


Possible causes of the continued smoking:
-too much crank case pressure causing more oil than normal to bypass through the piston seal (very rare btw)
-oil drain tube blockage causing the same (more common)
-too much oil feed pressure (normally not an issue with journal bearing turbos)
-you still have residual oil in the manifold and dump tube that needs to clear out
-you have oil leaking from elsewhere in the system like valve stem seals or cracked ringlands causing severe blow by.

Now im not sure what other testing you have completed, but I would recommend looking in other areas to ensure that your car is tip top. We did as thorough a check on the turbo as possible, and it's good brotha!

Certainly keep me informed of what you find Richard!

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