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Ude Lose · 03-24-2012, 04:54 PM

I cant figure out why my car is smoking severely. I just built the entire engine do to the fact that it was smoking.
I drove it an hour home from where I store it and all was fine up until the last ten minutes. The car started pouring smoke out of the exhaust. I dont know what to do.
The engine build information can be found here....

Ude lose's ROTM thread February 2012

Its at the point now as to where I cant even drive the car (not that I would in this state) without creating a smoke screne behind me.
My exhaust system is as follows, Lcr S3 3.5 to 3 inch O2 housing, 3 inch dp with electric cutout, stock SRT mid section, Sxt appearance package dual tip muffler.
At first I thought that there was oil trapped in the exhaust system and it was just burning off. But at the rate this smoke is coming out, I dont think that could possibly be the culprit anymore.
I have a brand new pcv valve, a catch can, and a inline check valve.
I also replaced the oil returnline gasket today.
I thought that maybe the oil seal in the turbo was bad. So i sent it out and got the 69x upgrade from Bob at F&F.
I read that the check valves occasionally go bad, so I removed that and it still smokes. Just not as bad.
I also checked the spark plugs and they were dry. #1 was a tad bit more dirty than the rest but nothing to be worried about.
I'm totally stumped as to what is making my car smoke like a freight train.

If anybody has any ideas please let me know.

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Sota · 03-24-2012, 05:29 PM

you sure it's oil smoke and not coolant?

Sota · 03-24-2012, 05:30 PM

what does the turbo inlet look like? any signs of oil on the compressor?

TenZen · 03-24-2012, 06:41 PM

Kind of got the same thing, but the problem is never constant. It will do it one day, then won't do it for 2-3 weeks.

Ude Lose · 03-24-2012, 06:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Sota

what does the turbo inlet look like? any signs of oil on the compressor?

I'm pretty sure its oil smoke.

The turbo inlet had a drip of oil on it.
the weird thing was that the v band clamp had oil in it.
I'm sooo confused

Ude Lose · 03-24-2012, 06:47 PM

I bought the car new in 03. If I wasn't emotionally attached I would sell it and dump the money into my evo. That thing is an animal already, I wonder what it would be like with $6k into the engine

Who am i kidding, I would never get rid of my SRT no matter how bad it pisses me off sometimes.
I also read a thread from AGP that does not recomend using a check valve at all. Especially inline with a pcv valve.

fixit · 03-24-2012, 06:55 PM

if compression is good, ~150#/cyl -- pull the turbo, i be the turbine is coated with oil
spark plugs are probably oil fouled too

Ude Lose · 03-24-2012, 06:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by fixit

if compression is good, ~150#/cyl -- pull the turbo

Just got it from Bob.
Damn, what should I tell him if it is the turbo, or how would I know?
I mean this thing is making S M O K E

Ude Lose · 03-25-2012, 04:57 PM

I took the v band clamp off of the turbo/manifold yesterday and there was oil in it,as much oil as that little clamp can hold. I cleaned it and reinstalled.
Today the car is still smoking. I took the muffler off to see if that may have had unburnt oil in it and drove the car. Car is still smoking. I reinstalled the muffler.
I took the V band clamp off of the turbo/manifold again today. Has oil in it again.
Im no expert but I think oil is somehow getting past the turbo and getting into the manifold and creating smoke coming out of the exhaust.
This is a fresh turbo that i received from bob an F&F less than a week ago.
I dont know what to do.
Basically there is oil getting past the turbo somehow.
What would you all assume the problem is?

Sota · 03-25-2012, 04:59 PM

talk to bob tomorrow.

Ude Lose · 03-25-2012, 05:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Sota

talk to bob tomorrow.

I just pmed him.

/

Soo confused

dodgesrt404 · 03-25-2012, 05:05 PM

i have a 04 i just bought it 2weeks ago and i thought it needed a turbo so bought a new turbo and it still smokes REALLY BAD! out of the exaust im thinking maybe my valve seals or head gasket might be bad but i dont know

strokedracer05 · 03-25-2012, 05:05 PM

Seals are probably bad but bob is the man talk to him and see what he says

Ude Lose · 03-25-2012, 07:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by strokedracer05

Seals are probably bad but bob is the man talk to him and see what he says

Yeah man, I hope he takes care of me. The turbo has 50-60 miles on it the most. Never went past 8-10lbs of boost.
I have never even gone wot on my new engine build yet.
Soo disappointed, I am beginning to grow tired taking this turbo in and out of the car.

Ude Lose · 03-26-2012, 08:46 PM

I will be sending the turbo back to Bob for a diagnosis

03-24-2012, 04:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ude Lose SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4562 Location: 845 N.Y. Posts: 2,075	Holy SMOKES! I cant figure out why my car is smoking severely. I just built the entire engine do to the fact that it was smoking. I drove it an hour home from where I store it and all was fine up until the last ten minutes. The car started pouring smoke out of the exhaust. I dont know what to do. The engine build information can be found here.... Ude lose's ROTM thread February 2012 Its at the point now as to where I cant even drive the car (not that I would in this state) without creating a smoke screne behind me. My exhaust system is as follows, Lcr S3 3.5 to 3 inch O2 housing, 3 inch dp with electric cutout, stock SRT mid section, Sxt appearance package dual tip muffler. At first I thought that there was oil trapped in the exhaust system and it was just burning off. But at the rate this smoke is coming out, I dont think that could possibly be the culprit anymore. I have a brand new pcv valve, a catch can, and a inline check valve. I also replaced the oil returnline gasket today. I thought that maybe the oil seal in the turbo was bad. So i sent it out and got the 69x upgrade from Bob at F&F. I read that the check valves occasionally go bad, so I removed that and it still smokes. Just not as bad. I also checked the spark plugs and they were dry. #1 was a tad bit more dirty than the rest but nothing to be worried about. I'm totally stumped as to what is making my car smoke like a freight train. If anybody has any ideas please let me know. ..

03-24-2012, 05:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sota SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 31159 Location: Union County NJ Posts: 11,255	you sure it's oil smoke and not coolant? __________________ LIFETIME NRA MEMBER SUPPORT THE SECOND AMMENDMENT IN ITS FULLEST I'll be out most of the year it looks like. call it a "building" year. those who need me know where and how to find me.

03-24-2012, 05:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sota SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 31159 Location: Union County NJ Posts: 11,255	what does the turbo inlet look like? any signs of oil on the compressor? __________________ LIFETIME NRA MEMBER SUPPORT THE SECOND AMMENDMENT IN ITS FULLEST I'll be out most of the year it looks like. call it a "building" year. those who need me know where and how to find me.

03-24-2012, 06:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
TenZen SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Member Number: 84907 Location: Radcliff, KY Posts: 299	Kind of got the same thing, but the problem is never constant. It will do it one day, then won't do it for 2-3 weeks. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by brokestatus Just because I love 14 y/o girls does not make me a pedophile. It makes me an OG. Like, pilgrim status.

03-24-2012, 06:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ude Lose SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4562 Location: 845 N.Y. Posts: 2,075	I bought the car new in 03. If I wasn't emotionally attached I would sell it and dump the money into my evo. That thing is an animal already, I wonder what it would be like with $6k into the engine Who am i kidding, I would never get rid of my SRT no matter how bad it pisses me off sometimes. I also read a thread from AGP that does not recomend using a check valve at all. Especially inline with a pcv valve. Last edited by Ude Lose; 03-24-2012 at 06:49 PM.

03-24-2012, 06:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ude Lose SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4562 Location: 845 N.Y. Posts: 2,075	Quote: Originally Posted by Sota what does the turbo inlet look like? any signs of oil on the compressor? I'm pretty sure its oil smoke. The turbo inlet had a drip of oil on it. the weird thing was that the v band clamp had oil in it. I'm sooo confused

03-24-2012, 06:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
fixit SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2004 Member Number: 11361 Location: nj Posts: 1,475	if compression is good, ~150#/cyl -- pull the turbo, i be the turbine is coated with oil spark plugs are probably oil fouled too __________________ Build Thread:http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f451...w-123k-612933/ PCM=S0, DSP rescaled, 3bar map/tip injectors= Siemens 80# (ebay $200) built motor, 8.8:1 weisco, eagle-h, strap & windage S3R DCR manifold ($500) w/evo8 turbo (ebay $150) - 20G/47# ebay ($200) Evo 8 WGA 24x12x4 w/cast ends - CXRacing (ebay $200) DataLogger DataQA, $25 Wideband UEGO (ebay $150) vette rims 275/40/17 needswing v5 SouthBend S3 Last edited by fixit; 03-24-2012 at 07:01 PM.

03-24-2012, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ude Lose SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4562 Location: 845 N.Y. Posts: 2,075	Quote: Originally Posted by fixit if compression is good, ~150#/cyl -- pull the turbo Just got it from Bob. Damn, what should I tell him if it is the turbo, or how would I know? I mean this thing is making S M O K E

03-25-2012, 04:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ude Lose SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4562 Location: 845 N.Y. Posts: 2,075	I took the v band clamp off of the turbo/manifold yesterday and there was oil in it,as much oil as that little clamp can hold. I cleaned it and reinstalled. Today the car is still smoking. I took the muffler off to see if that may have had unburnt oil in it and drove the car. Car is still smoking. I reinstalled the muffler. I took the V band clamp off of the turbo/manifold again today. Has oil in it again. Im no expert but I think oil is somehow getting past the turbo and getting into the manifold and creating smoke coming out of the exhaust. This is a fresh turbo that i received from bob an F&F less than a week ago. I dont know what to do. Basically there is oil getting past the turbo somehow. What would you all assume the problem is?

03-25-2012, 04:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sota SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 31159 Location: Union County NJ Posts: 11,255	talk to bob tomorrow. __________________ LIFETIME NRA MEMBER SUPPORT THE SECOND AMMENDMENT IN ITS FULLEST I'll be out most of the year it looks like. call it a "building" year. those who need me know where and how to find me.

03-25-2012, 05:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ude Lose SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4562 Location: 845 N.Y. Posts: 2,075	Quote: Originally Posted by Sota talk to bob tomorrow. I just pmed him. / Soo confused

03-25-2012, 05:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
dodgesrt404 SRTforums Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Member Number: 88602 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 1	i have a 04 i just bought it 2weeks ago and i thought it needed a turbo so bought a new turbo and it still smokes REALLY BAD! out of the exaust im thinking maybe my valve seals or head gasket might be bad but i dont know

03-25-2012, 05:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
strokedracer05 SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Member Number: 77818 Location: Belpre Ohio Posts: 4,896	Seals are probably bad but bob is the man talk to him and see what he says __________________ new setup for 2012:Bob at form and functions new stage 3 wheel stock motor from oil pan to valve cover shooting for 10s with lots of timing and boost on racegas!!!

03-25-2012, 07:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ude Lose SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4562 Location: 845 N.Y. Posts: 2,075	Quote: Originally Posted by strokedracer05 Seals are probably bad but bob is the man talk to him and see what he says Yeah man, I hope he takes care of me. The turbo has 50-60 miles on it the most. Never went past 8-10lbs of boost. I have never even gone wot on my new engine build yet. Soo disappointed, I am beginning to grow tired taking this turbo in and out of the car.

03-26-2012, 08:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ude Lose SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4562 Location: 845 N.Y. Posts: 2,075	I will be sending the turbo back to Bob for a diagnosis

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