Hahn 20g/16g owners? Post your dyno and setups here! - SRT Forums

bnice01 · 10-02-2006, 08:14 PM

Performance:
Hahn Super 20g Turbo Kit
Bnice's Traction Control
Bnice's Fuel Return
Bnice's Water/Meth Injection
GotBallz Racing Turbo Back Exhaust
GotBallz Racing STS
PTPerformance Map Clamp
Perrin MBC
JMB Performance Intercooler Pipes
Greddy RS BOV
Balance Shaft Chain Removal
Oil Catch Can
Short Ram Intake
180* Stat
Fan Mod
Walbro 255 lph fuel pump

Suspension:
Five-way adjustable Tokico dampers
Rear tension strut
Larger front antiroll bar

Misc:
NGK Wideband w/ Digital Display
AutoMeter 30 psi Boost Gauge
AutoMeter 100 psi Oil Gauge
Datalogger w/ HP PDA
Angry Ass Tail Lights
Wing Delete
17'' black w/ polish lip rims

Mods waiting for arrival:
SAFC(still waiting as of 8 Sept 06, I may have got schamed)
630cc injectors

No dyno or track times since I dont have anything to tune with. I figure all the other turbo owners had stickies(well I hope this gets made into a stick

) why not us. I combine the 16g's with us since there from hahn, very simliar turbos, and to keep the thread whoring to a low.

Hemi-OrangeSRT · 10-02-2006, 08:24 PM

Suppose to Dyno Wednesday but dont want to yet since I dont have a new clutch in. Here are my mods for now anyway.....

Hahn 20G
Hahn Portfueler
Needswings DP
Mopar Cai
Walbro 255
ED Hardpipes
Greddy Type S Bov
Needswings BC
QW FMIC
Mopar Stage 1 Springs

I am hoping to get 400 Hp on 22psi, does anyone think it is possible with these mods and maybe some portwork?

vegasDSM · 10-03-2006, 10:38 AM

i'll be dyno'd after my new clutch is broken (still have to receive/install it)

gimme 30 days and i'll have a high 300 pull (hopefully 400+)....

tellub · 10-03-2006, 04:21 PM

No dyno yet but here are the mods

Hahn 20g
Portfueler
Stage 1 pcm
Needswings downpipe
Lorenzo tb and adapter
aem cai
ED hardpipes hks bov
AGP fmic
Walbro fuelpump
ngk plugs
msd wires
clutchmasters clutch

Water/meth injection coming soon

bnice01 · 10-03-2006, 05:42 PM

Yeah thats what I am talking about. 16's were are you @?

So how are the port fuelers treating you guys? I am a bit curious

Also dont forget to post up useful info and other things about your setup. So others can get a feeler on these turbos.

Hemi-OrangeSRT · 10-03-2006, 05:52 PM

I have the Portfueler and it is AWESOME!!!. I went from having 650's/SAFC2 to the Portfuler setup and it is way better. No more stumbleing or hesitating. I am not a big tuner at all so this setup was perfect for me. Anyone that basically wants a Plug N Play setup just like the Stage3 Kit with more power go with the 16 or 20G from hahn with the Portfueler. It is also cheaper than the Stage3 Kit.

vegasDSM · 10-03-2006, 08:14 PM

i'm bored, so here it goes..

agp cai
Ex depot BIG FMIC (one from 2003......)
AGP hot side
turbonetics cold side
raptor BOV (turbonetics)
PTP map/tip clamp
PTP PnP intake manifold
PTP 55mm T/B
ATP 3" downpipe w/test pipe
Ex Depot 3" catback w/no muffler
20g
portfueler
walbro 255
-6AN line all the way to the tank (bottleneck fix is next)
zeitronix wideband, electric boost guage
tech guages IAT/Timing/Kock guage
AGP upper solid MM
stock filled lower/tranny mount
Bwoody H-brace
rev=it=up traction bars
ES LCA bushings
eibach springs (stock blown struts ;-) )
ES bushings (endlinks)
PTP stage 3 clutch
riko R-1 17x8 (13 lb rims only)
Hawk racing pads (stock rotors)
180t-stat
air horn (35dolla... pricelesss...)

im sure im missin things... ihavent driven my car for over 4 weeks.....

bnice01 · 10-04-2006, 08:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hemi-OrangeSRT

I have the Portfueler and it is AWESOME!!!. I went from having 650's/SAFC2 to the Portfuler setup and it is way better. No more stumbleing or hesitating. I am not a big tuner at all so this setup was perfect for me. Anyone that basically wants a Plug N Play setup just like the Stage3 Kit with more power go with the 16 or 20G from hahn with the Portfueler. It is also cheaper than the Stage3 Kit.

Hmm that has me thinking now.

Hemi-OrangeSRT · 10-06-2006, 10:21 PM

What is a good boost controller that is easy to use yet still holds boost and doesnt drop at all? I am in need of one ASAP!!!

bnice01 · 10-07-2006, 04:52 PM

EBC's works best

mbc's fall quick for some reason on these turbo. With two types I had I would set it and it would fall back 4 psi were I set it. Like it would spike to 20 real quick and fall to 16 then hold.

Or you can just run striaght off the wga, that works real well. Or set the wga to a certain psi (the psi you want it at) and barley tighten the mbc(the loosest it would go with out falling out). Doing this your setting a bleed in route, kind of making a small surge to speed up the spool up. Then you make small adjustments until you get it were you want it (spool up/spike) but if you get surge turn it back. Surge is that chachachacha noise you hear when spooling up.

TedStriker · 10-09-2006, 10:39 AM

any 16g dyno sheets around?

Hemi-OrangeSRT · 10-15-2006, 04:53 PM

I got the Turbo XS HPBC and I set it at 18psi and it drops to 15 everytime. Do I need a stronger spring or do I have a leak? I will check for leaks soon but does the spring only hold 15psi?

**Philth** · 10-15-2006, 04:58 PM

I have S2 no toys and am wondering how a portfueler will help at all? I looked at their website and Hahn said they gained power just by adding a port fueler??? S2 runs rich as hell to begin with!

I'm torn between S3 and a 16g/20g setup with the portfueler. I cant really get rid of stage 2 cause I have an 05 and all those CEL's they throw without some sort of staged computger. I bought my S2 for $600 so it would be kinda pointless to go out and get a stage 1 if I dont have to.

Hemi-OrangeSRT · 10-15-2006, 07:28 PM

you cant just use the portfueler by itself. It has to be used with a big turbo or else you woud run really really rich. It says on there website that the kit works with stage 2 also. So I would say yeah go for it!!!The 20G I mean....

**Philth** · 10-15-2006, 09:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hemi-OrangeSRT

you cant just use the portfueler by itself. It has to be used with a big turbo or else you woud run really really rich. It says on there website that the kit works with stage 2 also. So I would say yeah go for it!!!The 20G I mean....

Hmm...here's a quote from their site....

"With our car in stock Stage 0 form, we installed our innovative new PortFueler system, our Fuel Mapper, a boost controller, and a modified wastegate actuator. Results were good, with 280 whp and low 13-second dragstrip performance. Power had been greatly improved, but the stock turbo proved to be hard to control at high RPM...the typical boost dropoff was evident. Bill decided that the stock turbo was simply a waste of further development time."

In any event, the thing that I'm having a hard time with, is that with Stage 3, you have PCM limited boost in 1st and 2nd, which obviously helps with traction. You dont have anything like that with the Hahn system. Can any Hahn owners chime in on their experiences with this? Thanks!

10-02-2006, 08:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
bnice01 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Member Number: 34888 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,063	Hahn 20g/16g owners? Post your dyno and setups here! Performance: Hahn Super 20g Turbo Kit Bnice's Traction Control Bnice's Fuel Return Bnice's Water/Meth Injection GotBallz Racing Turbo Back Exhaust GotBallz Racing STS PTPerformance Map Clamp Perrin MBC JMB Performance Intercooler Pipes Greddy RS BOV Balance Shaft Chain Removal Oil Catch Can Short Ram Intake 180* Stat Fan Mod Walbro 255 lph fuel pump Suspension: Five-way adjustable Tokico dampers Rear tension strut Larger front antiroll bar Misc: NGK Wideband w/ Digital Display AutoMeter 30 psi Boost Gauge AutoMeter 100 psi Oil Gauge Datalogger w/ HP PDA Angry Ass Tail Lights Wing Delete 17'' black w/ polish lip rims Mods waiting for arrival: SAFC(still waiting as of 8 Sept 06, I may have got schamed) 630cc injectors No dyno or track times since I dont have anything to tune with. I figure all the other turbo owners had stickies(well I hope this gets made into a stick ) why not us. I combine the 16g's with us since there from hahn, very simliar turbos, and to keep the thread whoring to a low. __________________ Garage Self Tuner Est. HP 400+

10-02-2006, 08:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hemi-OrangeSRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Member Number: 43472 Location: Michigan Posts: 454	Suppose to Dyno Wednesday but dont want to yet since I dont have a new clutch in. Here are my mods for now anyway..... Hahn 20G Hahn Portfueler Needswings DP Mopar Cai Walbro 255 ED Hardpipes Greddy Type S Bov Needswings BC QW FMIC Mopar Stage 1 Springs I am hoping to get 400 Hp on 22psi, does anyone think it is possible with these mods and maybe some portwork? __________________ Mopar S3 W/Toys Mopar Cat-Back Mopar Cat-Delete Pipe Mopar BOV T-Bolt Clamps Trying To Keep It All Mopar

10-03-2006, 10:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
vegasDSM SRTforums Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Member Number: 726 Location: VEGAS baby! Posts: 4,412	i'll be dyno'd after my new clutch is broken (still have to receive/install it) gimme 30 days and i'll have a high 300 pull (hopefully 400+).... __________________ F this forum and it's bullshit ads......ekool has jumped the shark www.myspace.com/vegasdsmr<--vids.................... http://www.WebPeople.us http://www.WebPeopleVideos.com

10-03-2006, 04:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
tellub SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Member Number: 21907 Location: CenCal Posts: 916	No dyno yet but here are the mods Hahn 20g Portfueler Stage 1 pcm Needswings downpipe Lorenzo tb and adapter aem cai ED hardpipes hks bov AGP fmic Walbro fuelpump ngk plugs msd wires clutchmasters clutch Water/meth injection coming soon __________________ Last edited by tellub; 10-04-2006 at 04:27 PM.

10-03-2006, 05:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
bnice01 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Member Number: 34888 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,063	Yeah thats what I am talking about. 16's were are you @? So how are the port fuelers treating you guys? I am a bit curious Also dont forget to post up useful info and other things about your setup. So others can get a feeler on these turbos. __________________ Garage Self Tuner Est. HP 400+ Last edited by bnice01; 10-03-2006 at 05:46 PM.

10-03-2006, 05:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hemi-OrangeSRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Member Number: 43472 Location: Michigan Posts: 454	I have the Portfueler and it is AWESOME!!!. I went from having 650's/SAFC2 to the Portfuler setup and it is way better. No more stumbleing or hesitating. I am not a big tuner at all so this setup was perfect for me. Anyone that basically wants a Plug N Play setup just like the Stage3 Kit with more power go with the 16 or 20G from hahn with the Portfueler. It is also cheaper than the Stage3 Kit. __________________ Mopar S3 W/Toys Mopar Cat-Back Mopar Cat-Delete Pipe Mopar BOV T-Bolt Clamps Trying To Keep It All Mopar

10-03-2006, 08:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
vegasDSM SRTforums Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Member Number: 726 Location: VEGAS baby! Posts: 4,412	i'm bored, so here it goes.. agp cai Ex depot BIG FMIC (one from 2003......) AGP hot side turbonetics cold side raptor BOV (turbonetics) PTP map/tip clamp PTP PnP intake manifold PTP 55mm T/B ATP 3" downpipe w/test pipe Ex Depot 3" catback w/no muffler 20g portfueler walbro 255 -6AN line all the way to the tank (bottleneck fix is next) zeitronix wideband, electric boost guage tech guages IAT/Timing/Kock guage AGP upper solid MM stock filled lower/tranny mount Bwoody H-brace rev=it=up traction bars ES LCA bushings eibach springs (stock blown struts ;-) ) ES bushings (endlinks) PTP stage 3 clutch riko R-1 17x8 (13 lb rims only) Hawk racing pads (stock rotors) 180t-stat air horn (35dolla... pricelesss...) im sure im missin things... ihavent driven my car for over 4 weeks..... __________________ F this forum and it's bullshit ads......ekool has jumped the shark www.myspace.com/vegasdsmr<--vids.................... http://www.WebPeople.us http://www.WebPeopleVideos.com Last edited by vegasDSM; 10-03-2006 at 08:18 PM.

10-04-2006, 08:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
bnice01 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Member Number: 34888 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,063	Quote: Originally Posted by Hemi-OrangeSRT I have the Portfueler and it is AWESOME!!!. I went from having 650's/SAFC2 to the Portfuler setup and it is way better. No more stumbleing or hesitating. I am not a big tuner at all so this setup was perfect for me. Anyone that basically wants a Plug N Play setup just like the Stage3 Kit with more power go with the 16 or 20G from hahn with the Portfueler. It is also cheaper than the Stage3 Kit. Hmm that has me thinking now. __________________ Garage Self Tuner Est. HP 400+

10-06-2006, 10:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hemi-OrangeSRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Member Number: 43472 Location: Michigan Posts: 454	What is a good boost controller that is easy to use yet still holds boost and doesnt drop at all? I am in need of one ASAP!!! __________________ Mopar S3 W/Toys Mopar Cat-Back Mopar Cat-Delete Pipe Mopar BOV T-Bolt Clamps Trying To Keep It All Mopar

10-07-2006, 04:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
bnice01 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Member Number: 34888 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,063	EBC's works best mbc's fall quick for some reason on these turbo. With two types I had I would set it and it would fall back 4 psi were I set it. Like it would spike to 20 real quick and fall to 16 then hold. Or you can just run striaght off the wga, that works real well. Or set the wga to a certain psi (the psi you want it at) and barley tighten the mbc(the loosest it would go with out falling out). Doing this your setting a bleed in route, kind of making a small surge to speed up the spool up. Then you make small adjustments until you get it were you want it (spool up/spike) but if you get surge turn it back. Surge is that chachachacha noise you hear when spooling up. __________________ Garage Self Tuner Est. HP 400+

10-09-2006, 10:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
TedStriker SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Member Number: 5292 Location: Calgary Posts: 657	any 16g dyno sheets around? __________________ " I guess I picked the wrong day to quit amphetamines" DCR S3 w/ Toys PTP Ported Intake Manifold PTP Ported 55mm Throttle Body AGP Direct Fit Intercooler AGP S3 WGA MaxFabb S3 o2 Housing MaxFabb 3" Downpipe Mopar Catback Mopar STS PTP HardPipes PTP CAI PTP Check Valve Greddy Catch Can Mopar Plug Wires & Filter Engine Runup W/I Injection ACT Race Clutch

10-15-2006, 04:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hemi-OrangeSRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Member Number: 43472 Location: Michigan Posts: 454	I got the Turbo XS HPBC and I set it at 18psi and it drops to 15 everytime. Do I need a stronger spring or do I have a leak? I will check for leaks soon but does the spring only hold 15psi? __________________ Mopar S3 W/Toys Mopar Cat-Back Mopar Cat-Delete Pipe Mopar BOV T-Bolt Clamps Trying To Keep It All Mopar

10-15-2006, 04:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
Philth Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Oct 2006 Member Number: 46647 Location: Scott AFB, IL Posts: 6,498	I have S2 no toys and am wondering how a portfueler will help at all? I looked at their website and Hahn said they gained power just by adding a port fueler??? S2 runs rich as hell to begin with! I'm torn between S3 and a 16g/20g setup with the portfueler. I cant really get rid of stage 2 cause I have an 05 and all those CEL's they throw without some sort of staged computger. I bought my S2 for $600 so it would be kinda pointless to go out and get a stage 1 if I dont have to.

10-15-2006, 07:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Hemi-OrangeSRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Member Number: 43472 Location: Michigan Posts: 454	you cant just use the portfueler by itself. It has to be used with a big turbo or else you woud run really really rich. It says on there website that the kit works with stage 2 also. So I would say yeah go for it!!!The 20G I mean.... __________________ Mopar S3 W/Toys Mopar Cat-Back Mopar Cat-Delete Pipe Mopar BOV T-Bolt Clamps Trying To Keep It All Mopar

10-15-2006, 09:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Philth Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Oct 2006 Member Number: 46647 Location: Scott AFB, IL Posts: 6,498	Quote: Originally Posted by Hemi-OrangeSRT you cant just use the portfueler by itself. It has to be used with a big turbo or else you woud run really really rich. It says on there website that the kit works with stage 2 also. So I would say yeah go for it!!!The 20G I mean.... Hmm...here's a quote from their site.... "With our car in stock Stage 0 form, we installed our innovative new PortFueler system, our Fuel Mapper, a boost controller, and a modified wastegate actuator. Results were good, with 280 whp and low 13-second dragstrip performance. Power had been greatly improved, but the stock turbo proved to be hard to control at high RPM...the typical boost dropoff was evident. Bill decided that the stock turbo was simply a waste of further development time." In any event, the thing that I'm having a hard time with, is that with Stage 3, you have PCM limited boost in 1st and 2nd, which obviously helps with traction. You dont have anything like that with the Hahn system. Can any Hahn owners chime in on their experiences with this? Thanks!

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