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Old 09-08-2006, 03:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Approximately how much does a GT35R full set-up (EVERYTHING) cost? Sorry if this is off topic.

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Old 09-08-2006, 07:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mike_Blue_RT
Approximately how much does a GT35R full set-up (EVERYTHING) cost? Sorry if this is off topic.

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Everything???

Well if you wanna use a GT35r, you wanna run 550whp+ So...

Built motor - 3 grand

Trans stuff - 800

Turbo kit - 2500

All bolt ons - 2000

Custom fuel system - 500


BS..... Another 1 or 2G

So total just under 10 grand....
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mike_Blue_RT
Approximately how much does a GT35R full set-up (EVERYTHING) cost? Sorry if this is off topic.

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Everything???

Well if you wanna use a GT35r, you wanna run 550whp+ So...

Built motor - 3 grand

Trans stuff - 800

Turbo kit - 2500

All bolt ons - 2000

Custom fuel system - 500


BS..... Another 1 or 2G

So total just under 10 grand....

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Old 09-08-2006, 11:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Here's Ultimate Racing's GT35R .82ar



Check out their post regarding everything done.

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Thats pretty sad considering I made 450/475@24lbs on a Turbonetics Ceramic ball bearing 50trim

And at 24 psi your 50 trim is about to take a shit, while this turbo made 440 at 20 psi and is barely breathing and will run as high as 35psi.

Good try though.

Absolutely false! You are right about them not being a comparison though. That GT35R will obviously outshine the 50 on higher boost since it is alot bigger.


I think it outshines a 50trim even on lower boost levels...

Having had both turbos, my GT35R would walk my 50trim setup at 20psi, 22psi, 24psi, 30psi, ect...

In fact the 35R at 22psi and C16 feels as strong as what my 50trim at 30psi did with this exception, the 50trim you can feel it run out of steam towards redline, begging to be shifted, where the 35R pulls hard and strong all the way to redline with no noticable drop off in power, this thing just slams you in the seat and pulls and torque steers like a runaway freight train.

However, this isn't a fair comparision, because the 35R is on a fully built engine, where as when I had the 50trim I was on a stock engine.

You look at many of the 50trim dyno graphs floating around here you will notice after this turbo hits its peak power numbers, it tends to drop off rather significantly by the time it hits redline, and you don't see this with a 35R, notice my 50trim graph:



This is the highest HP we got out of the 50trim, boost was 30psi, notice you will see HP drop and TQ plummet towards redline.

Now observe the GT35R chart, HP holds steady and TQ falls alittle but not at the rate of the 50trim... GT35R chart was at 35 - 38 psi? Boost guage only goes upto 30...

When we were dynoing, the GT35R held HP/TQ at lower boost levels all the way to redline.



Now don't misunderstand me, as I love the 50trim and I have 1st hand experience with it, it can be quite potent and strong on pump gas, but the GT35R is simply a stronger and meaner and a more violent snail, this thing loves higher boost and C16! But I will also add even with pure pump and a mere 17 - 18 psi, the GT35R is still a tough out, atleast on my car.
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If you can run 20psi on pump... C16 wouldn't add anymore power.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisUlrich
If you can run 20psi on pump... C16 wouldn't add anymore power.

You might think so, but not the case with my car, it just loves C16 at low boost, mid boost, high boost.....


It just loves it...

I typically run a mixture of pump and C16 for low boost, and I do notice the car not running or even idling as great as the mixture shifts or dulutes to pump gas...

Now the car still runs quite strong on pure pump, but she sure does perform better with C16.... I think she is addicted to the stuff...
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As you said though Lucy, it's not really a far comparison because the 35R is on a built engine, but l understand what you're saying.
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If you can run 20psi on pump... C16 wouldn't add anymore power.

You might think so, but not the case with my car, it just loves C16 at low boost, mid boost, high boost.....


It just loves it...

I typically run a mixture of pump and C16 for low boost, and I do notice the car not running or even idling as great as the mixture shifts or dulutes to pump gas...

Now the car still runs quite strong on pure pump, but she sure does perform better with C16.... I think she is addicted to the stuff...

What are the track time's for both of these set up's? You were in the 11's with the 50 trim right? What does the 35r run at the track thanks.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:10 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I'm intrested too in the track times. I am building a motor and going to add the gt35r kit from AMS.My goal is to shoot for the 700HP mark.

I would love to see and vids of lucybop's car.Do you have any floating around?
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Why would higher octane add hp if you're not detonating? But even at that point you're not adding horsepower... just getting it back since the detonation makes the knock sensor go nuts and retards timing a bunch.

Octane isn't a power adder
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Quote: Originally Posted by Limey
I'm intrested too in the track times. I am building a motor and going to add the gt35r kit from AMS.My goal is to shoot for the 700HP mark.

I would love to see and vids of lucybop's car.Do you have any floating around?

According to several people... 700whp is a stretch for the GT35r. GT42r would be a wiser choice for 700whp
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Why would higher octane add hp if you're not detonating? But even at that point you're not adding horsepower... just getting it back since the detonation makes the knock sensor go nuts and retards timing a bunch.

Octane isn't a power adder


I never claimed Octane is a power adder, nor is my car detonating...

It simply runs better with VP's fuel and loves it, whether that makes sense to you or not it doesn't matter much to me at this point.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisUlrich
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I'm intrested too in the track times. I am building a motor and going to add the gt35r kit from AMS.My goal is to shoot for the 700HP mark.

I would love to see and vids of lucybop's car.Do you have any floating around?

According to several people... 700whp is a stretch for the GT35r. GT42r would be a wiser choice for 700whp

Aboslutely not man... A GT42R won't even FIT on the back of the car so why recommend it? An AGP HP66 is more like it...which is also compareable to the GT37R...thats IF your going for 700whp...
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According to several people... 700whp is a stretch for the GT35r. GT42r would be a wiser choice for 700whp

Absolutely not man... A GT42R won't even FIT on the back of the car so why recommend it? An AGP HP66 is more like it...which is also compareable to the GT37R...thats IF your going for 700whp...


yup...as it is a T67 set-up has only 1/4" left clearance at the firewall...the gt42r comp house would need to share already being used real-estate!

anyone know of a gt37r set-up being run in a srt4?

curious to know
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Quote: Originally Posted by jersturbo
Quote: Originally Posted by KeyboardCommando
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According to several people... 700whp is a stretch for the GT35r. GT42r would be a wiser choice for 700whp

Absolutely not man... A GT42R won't even FIT on the back of the car so why recommend it? An AGP HP66 is more like it...which is also compareable to the GT37R...thats IF your going for 700whp...


yup...as it is a T67 set-up has only 1/4" left clearance at the firewall...the gt42r comp house would need to share already being used real-estate!

anyone know of a gt37r set-up being run in a srt4?

curious to know
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4U2NV is using the GT37R on the full AMS turbo kit but his car is STILL at AMS because they can't figure out the 6200? rpm breakup on the AEM EMS...
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