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Old 11-03-2009, 11:25 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by up_in_boost View Post
Evo owners seem to think so lol.

so much for that comment huh?? lmao
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I still dont think 99.9% of stock TURBO evos are fast. There Dime a Dozen IMO
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:36 AM   #63 (permalink)
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So your saying that a 16G is made to hold up to 35PSI?



Video said stock ECU, stock turbo. Stock Internals? that info wasnt there.... Oh and the elevation were im at is 4,500ft so that might have something to do with it.......

No I said "If" a turbo is made to run that much boost and I never said what turbo. And on that note your telling me your comparing an agp/garrett/turbonetics 50 trim to a mitsu 16g? Maybe your friend should have made a better selection in turbos before you deem all turbos as not being able to hold up to 30psi runs.
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I still dont think 99.9% of stock TURBO evos are fast. There Dime a Dozen IMO

by the time someone really wants to take the time and invest the $ into a stock turbo car, and maxing it out...it would have been twice as easy to just upgrade to something better suited for "x" and build around it.

i dont get the fascination with the maxed out "stock turbo".
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:42 AM   #65 (permalink)
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No I said "If" a turbo is made to run that much boost and I never said what turbo. And on that note your telling me your comparing an agp/garrett/turbonetics 50 trim to a mitsu 16g? Maybe your friend should have made a better selection in turbos before you deem all turbos as not being able to hold up to 30psi runs.


AHHH obviously were talking about the STOCK turbo

And who is comparing turbos??..... Im talking about the 16g not a 50 trim, a 35r blah blah.....

And the friend im talking about was using a STOCK 16g which you made it sound like you were saying could hold 35+psi.....

We are taling about a stock 16g turbo that come STOCK on a EVO 9... Do i have to say STOCK again? lol
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by the time someone really wants to take the time and invest the $ into a stock turbo car, and maxing it out...it would have been twice as easy to just upgrade to something better suited for "x" and build around it.

i dont get the fascination with the maxed out "stock turbo".

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AHHH obviously were talking about the STOCK turbo

And who is comparing turbos??..... Im talking about the 16g not a 50 trim, a 35r blah blah.....

And the friend im talking about was using a STOCK 16g which you made it sound like you were saying could hold 35+psi.....

We are taling about a stock 16g turbo that come STOCK on a EVO 9... Do i have to say STOCK again? lol

Touche' It's a 50 trim thread man MY BAD sheesh
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Touche' It's a 50 trim thread man MY BAD sheesh

HAHA we did get a little off topic lol

So is there anymore 50 trim ripping it up? i have been thinking of going with a 50 trim myself... But the AGP 50 cause i know the Garretts are smaller but still call it a 50 trim...
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But the AGP 50 cause i know the Garretts are smaller but still call it a 50 trim...

TRIM has nothing to do with flow ratings.
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TRIM has nothing to do with flow ratings.

garret flows 46lbs/min vs AGP flows 49LBS/min...

Correct me if im wrong.
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by the time someone really wants to take the time and invest the $ into a stock turbo car, and maxing it out...it would have been twice as easy to just upgrade to something better suited for "x" and build around it.

i dont get the fascination with the maxed out "stock turbo".

I'm not sure if you're talking about maxing out stock turbo in general...or only for Evos. But IMO, 99% of the mods needed to max out a stock turbo are needed for a big turbo as well. So it really makes no sense to say that IMO. You'd only do yourself a favor by purchasing really big injectors from the beginning to save cash. Example:

-Exhaust
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-Injectors/Fuel Pump/RL

Once you have that crap, which will easily max out stock turbo...you really don't have much shit that can't go towards a big turbo setup.
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garret flows 46lbs/min vs AGP flows 49LBS/min...

Correct me if im wrong.

You implied in your post that garrett calls it a 50trim even though it flows 46lbs, as though they are misleading people. One has NOTHING to do with the other, trim is a mathematical ratio of exducer to inducer. You can have a 60trim that flows 40lbs per minute.
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You implied in your post that garrett calls it a 50trim even though it flows 46lbs, as though they are misleading people. One has NOTHING to do with the other, trim is a mathematical ratio of exducer to inducer. You can have a 60trim that flows 40lbs per minute.

Nope you miss understood me.....

but good info
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HAHA we did get a little off topic lol

So is there anymore 50 trim ripping it up? i have been thinking of going with a 50 trim myself... But the AGP 50 cause i know the Garretts are smaller but still call it a 50 trim...

If you get the garrett tho since the compressor wheel is smaller you can put a .48 on the dual ball bearing. I had one on my car but I changed it to a .63 because I didnt know about the smaller wheel and was told it would surge.
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You implied in your post that garrett calls it a 50trim even though it flows 46lbs, as though they are misleading people. One has NOTHING to do with the other, trim is a mathematical ratio of exducer to inducer. You can have a 60trim that flows 40lbs per minute.

It's very misleading I bought it thinking it was the same as agp's version. It does have advantages tho.
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