So $550 later and bout 2 days she is all together. took me awhile to figure out how i wanted to make my coolant lines and oil line. Thanks too a local shop (Midwest Hose) for there help with fittings and lines. I decided to stay internally gated and no port work for now. I want to stay on the cheap side and see what just the EVO VIII turbo will do with supporting fuel mods. On my stocker i was running full E85 and made 290whp 350wtrq... On the evo turbo i will be running 91 pump till i get some 1000cc injectors. I hope for anything above 350whp on 20psi and pump....I love the everyday drive ability no more surging and ptp . Hear are some pics of it all installed http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...27187c6422.jpg http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...304b073c9b.jpg
well i have a question on all the big turbos and the stocker they all have a boost reference/vac line right off the turbo for the wastegate the evo turbo does not have that can i just tap into any vac line? i tapped into a vac line on the throttle body and seems to be working. I also have no spike it hits 16lbs and holds it 4th gear held 19lb never has went over 19lb so wondering if its the vac line? i know that no spike is good but these turbos internally gated should have a spike right ? the evo guys do...
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BFMI,KINETIC WGA , HOT+COLD PIPES WITH TURBONECTICS BOV,DCR TOP END MODIFIER, MSD COIL+WIRES, 3" DOWN PIPE,3" EXHAUST WITH DUMP,WALLY 255 , RE WIRE AND RETURN LINE+BOTTLENECK FIX,DSP TUNER ,SHORTY SHIFTER.289WHP 348WTQ
SOON TO INSTALL STG3 MANI EVO VIII TURBO
looks good dude! how much did you have to cut on the evo intercooler pipe for it to work with our intercooler pipe?
well i didn't have the evo j pipe.. if thats what u are talking bout .. I cnc a alum flange that bolts to the evo turbo and welded a alum pipe to the flange. The charge pipe is about 2 inches off right now from bolting to the block underneath the car. IM having a pipe bent and going to cut another flange out and weld them together and see how it all fits then. i cut bout 1 inch off so far on the charge pipe. the charge pipe is the only thing that is giving me problems
Damn...get it ext gated! That charge pipe does not look fun, but congrats for actually doing this.
Thanks and i probably will some time just want to show people u can build a kit for $1000 and make 350+ i only have $550 but i already have the fuel mods so this can be done for well under 1k if u can get ur hands on the stg3 mani
I will post dyno sheets soon! I have to start tuning and we have bad weather all week. Im going to fill up today and i should have all the E85 out so when the weather drys up ill be getting a passenger and start tuning.. i used to be able to read my boost and a/f gauges while driving but i have to shift to fast now lol I keep bouncing it off the rev limiter
You will only have a spike if your wga is tightened a lot. Boost spike is from the wga taking too long to open up, which is normally from a heavy spring or high tension on the spring (ie tightened a lot). You can use any boost only source for the wga, but closer to the turbo is better. It isnt too hard to drill and tap the turbo to install a 1/8 npt fitting with barb on it, shoulda done that before.
But anything off the charge pipe or off the cold side pipe will work fine. Most likely it is the vacuum and boost source you are using now that is eliminating the boost spike, move it to a boost only (pre-throttle body) and you will have your spike.
You will only have a spike if your wga is tightened a lot. Boost spike is from the wga taking too long to open up, which is normally from a heavy spring or high tension on the spring (ie tightened a lot). You can use any boost only source for the wga, but closer to the turbo is better. It isnt too hard to drill and tap the turbo to install a 1/8 npt fitting with barb on it, shoulda done that before.
But anything off the charge pipe or off the cold side pipe will work fine. Most likely it is the vacuum and boost source you are using now that is eliminating the boost spike, move it to a boost only (pre-throttle body) and you will have your spike.
sweet thanks thats what i thought ill probably just take the turbo off and tap into it like u said.. and im on stg 0 pcm with the dsp tuner. and will be getting a 3 bar map and tip. do i really need the 3 bar or will it just make things like tuning easier and better
sweet thanks thats what i thought ill probably just take the turbo off and tap into it like u said.. and im on stg 0 pcm with the dsp tuner. and will be getting a 3 bar map and tip. do i really need the 3 bar or will it just make things like tuning easier and better
Yes, to really tune the car correctly, you will need a 3bar map and tip. You can use cheaper versions than a mopar, like the GM versions, to save some cash. Turbo666 has used them regularly in his tuning and I think he has found no real issues.
Yes, to really tune the car correctly, you will need a 3bar map and tip. You can use cheaper versions than a mopar, like the GM versions, to save some cash. Turbo666 has used them regularly in his tuning and I think he has found no real issues.
a friend of mine has some hoping he will hook me up with a good deal he is also selling me a new southbend stg 3 clutch.
and thanks for the help man
So $550 later and bout 2 days she is all together. took me awhile to figure out how i wanted to make my coolant lines and oil line. Thanks too a local shop (Midwest Hose) for there help with fittings and lines. I decided to stay internally gated and no port work for now. I want to stay on the cheap side and see what just the EVO VIII turbo will do with supporting fuel mods. On my stocker i was running full E85 and made 290whp 350wtrq... On the evo turbo i will be running 91 pump till i get some 1000cc injectors. I hope for anything above 350whp on 20psi and pump....I love the everyday drive ability no more surging and ptp . Hear are some pics of it all installed http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...27187c6422.jpg http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...304b073c9b.jpg
well i have a question on all the big turbos and the stocker they all have a boost reference/vac line right off the turbo for the wastegate the evo turbo does not have that can i just tap into any vac line? i tapped into a vac line on the throttle body and seems to be working. I also have no spike it hits 16lbs and holds it 4th gear held 19lb never has went over 19lb so wondering if its the vac line? i know that no spike is good but these turbos internally gated should have a spike right ? the evo guys do...
you probably wont get much of a spike with that turbo because of the difference in displacement/volumetric efficiency. i forget, was there a difference in the evo 8 turbos? was one offered in a 6.5 and one in a 10cm2 turbine side? or were they all 8cm2?
Stg 3 manifold - Price? Where bought?
Evo VIII - Price? Where bought?
Stage 3 O2 housing - Price? Where bought?
Stage 3 WGA - Price? Where bought?
Im not calling you a liar but i just dont see how you did it for 550? The turbo, o2 and WGA arent hard to source for cheap...But the manifold is next to impossible.
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