best rods for the price

[turbojack]

Yeah but TK & BC should add more info for dummies like me who search the web for info. I'm sure more then just me would see 700+ in the one link as meaning these were good for the build up like the OP was after.

Anyone reading this: Thumbs up for TK I have used them and have nothing but respect for them and will use them again for sure............please do not look at the linked page as a place to buy cheaper then TK, it was posted just to show how the info on the web is not really 100% on the money with regards to the proper application of the part being sold.

BC should be told about the way that page is billing/promoting the BC part and BC should have them reword it to reflect that BC has another rod for those needing more.

[chuck's_srt-4]

I don't know where we are getting such a HUGE difference in price from the standard BC Pro Series rods to the BC625+ Pro Series rods!

The only difference is that the standard BC Pro Seires rods have the ARP 2000 rod bolts, where as the BC625+ rods use the "Custom Age 625+" rod bolts!

[supermech21]

Neither of these rods run a 7/16th rod bolt, per conversation with Dustin Spencer(tech at BC)...Its a stronger bolt, not a bigger bolt. CROWER's run a BIGGER bolt.

Call em up and get info from the horses mouth, 619-825-8719.

[DDogsrt461BLK 3.0]

it's rpm's that kill rod bolts.

I forget the magic number but it's around 75-80Ft per second. After that no man made engine will survive period. This was something I learned by watching F1. Trust me. Do your research.

[supermech21]

Quote: Originally Posted by DDogsrt461BLK 3.0

it's rpm's that kill rod bolts.

I forget the magic number but it's around 75-80Ft per second. After that no man made engine will survive period. This was something I learned by watching F1. Trust me. Do your research.

There is no magic "one thing" that will cause them to break. If that were the case a company would step forward, fix it, and that would be the new standard....but people are still blowing eagles(mez from the realtune camp). I dont know the RPM he was at, but my guess would be arron had the car dialed in and they just couldnt take it. And seeing as how he was running a stage 3 I HIGHLY DOUBT he went over 7000rpms.

My vote is for Crower.

[Ghowie]

Quote: Originally Posted by turbojack

From what I've seen posted the Eagles should be fine for 95% of everyone hitting this forum with a decent engine build.

there no better than stock rods and are a waste of $

[DDogsrt461BLK 3.0]

Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21

There is no magic "one thing" that will cause them to break. If that were the case a company would step forward, fix it, and that would be the new standard....but people are still blowing eagles(mez from the realtune camp). I dont know the RPM he was at, but my guess would be arron had the car dialed in and they just couldnt take it. And seeing as how he was running a stage 3 I HIGHLY DOUBT he went over 7000rpms.

My vote is for Crower.

Crower are the rods that 1st gen neon used to go over 9.55 at 140mph with so I agree with you on that.

But I'm using eagle rods, and what's to say that something else caused his engine to fail. I know the guy that micD and assembled my shortblock is point on. I'm quite certain that there's more the story then whats being told. 4340 steel isn't no hoe, and is the industry standard for making power before you or I was born.

Trust me, show me one engine that exceeds 80ft\second piston speeds, and I'll kiss your ass. It's a fact of physics, trust me!!!

[Caric]

Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21

There is no magic "one thing" that will cause them to break. If that were the case a company would step forward, fix it, and that would be the new standard....but people are still blowing eagles(mez from the realtune camp). I dont know the RPM he was at, but my guess would be arron had the car dialed in and they just couldnt take it. And seeing as how he was running a stage 3 I HIGHLY DOUBT he went over 7000rpms.

My vote is for Crower.

really is there a link to the story about how and why the rods gave up?

[turbojack]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ghowie

there no better than stock rods and are a waste of $

Hows that? You're saying that you would do a build up with the stock rods. You would buy new ARP bolts for the stock rods, have the old bolts pressed out and then have the new ARP's pressed in and then you would have the rod journals honed out afterwords......all to save a few bucks????

There's costs associated with reusing the stock rods in a build up. For most rebuilds the issue is the pistons. So you are going to spend money on aftermarket pistons with stock rods............and probably not do anything with the clearancing the pins as well.

EDIT: I misread you're post = you think the Eagles are junk and you did not mean to say to re-use the stock rods

[SRT'dOff]

Mez's car was making I think ~500 wtq and that's basically instant tq w/a stage 3 setup. I am pretty sure that they think the reason is insufficient bolt diameter but dont quote me.


It is mechanics of materials stuff. Figure out the material used for the bolt, its diameter, and the stress/strain allowable pertaining to the torque tht is gonna to be applied as well as the thread type and rod material. You can figure out either (a) what material must be used for that bolt diameter or (b) what the cross sectional area of a different material must be to be able to handle the shearing stress and the elongation of the bolt etc.

[supermech21]

Two words THANK YOU


post 14...then read on.

[mezturbo4]

Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21

There is no magic "one thing" that will cause them to break. If that were the case a company would step forward, fix it, and that would be the new standard....but people are still blowing eagles(mez from the realtune camp). I dont know the RPM he was at, but my guess would be arron had the car dialed in and they just couldnt take it. And seeing as how he was running a stage 3 I HIGHLY DOUBT he went over 7000rpms.

My vote is for Crower.

I agree /\/\/\
its called torque my car has a mopar pcm and a dtec no high revs here the car mad lots of torque and spooled fast no knock and held home those eagle rod bolts are the week point i have eagles in my small block they look the same but rod bolts are bigger

[tgspeedracer]

I have been told that the crowers are pretty good however I found out that the eagle rods have an upgraded rod bolts version as well, so would that make them alot better?

[mezturbo4]

Quote: Originally Posted by tgspeedracer

I have been told that the crowers are pretty good however I found out that the eagle rods have an upgraded rod bolts version as well, so would that make them alot better?

Save your self the worries dude have u seen the damage that happens when a rod bolt snaps. Say bye to the crank,block,pistons,valves etc pay a little more now for rods with good bolts or spend a couple grand after the rod bolts fail

just my 2cents

[boots]

I'm going with a set of manley turbo tuff's for my winter build. Here's the link Manley Performance - Sport Compact

pauter, manley, and crower are top of the line. I don't think you can go wrong with either one of them in my opinion. So save up