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Flame · 09-28-2008, 10:59 PM

Sticky.

HCCAFan · 10-17-2008, 05:06 PM

No one has one?

bitts · 10-19-2008, 10:31 AM

no. no one does

91PumpKing. · 10-19-2008, 02:08 PM

TKMS did a while ago.

**supermech21** · 10-19-2008, 02:35 PM

HCCAfan, them dogs are beautiful in your avatar...

I have some questions about this turbo, from what i can collect they shine at 27-28lbs, not good on low boost. Now its easy to say, the turbo doesnt pull on low boost blah blah blah, why??? Does it just feel sluggish? Or will a 50 trim on 20lbs vs a 60-1 on 20lbs the 50 trim will win? I would assume for simple spool issues the 50 trim will pull harder but the 60-1 can make and hold power longer into the powerband correct? If price were no issue a BWs256 would be the best of both worlds from a 50 trim and 60-1, correct? fast spool and the ability to hold power long into the power band, correct?

the 60-1 has always intrigued me but i see little no info on them, a lot like this thread.

Are they any other numbers out there other than erabbits old set up, 490ish on stock cyl head/cams, built bottem end, smim, ems...touch of god tuning...

91PumpKing. · 10-19-2008, 02:37 PM

erabbits car was a 60t...fairly different from a 60-1 fwiw.

SRT'dOff · 10-19-2008, 03:01 PM

Yeah eric's car was 60 trim NOT 60-1 definitely different turbos.

I had a 60-1 couple years ago hp mani etc etc never got it running right poped the HG.

Check this link out some info on a 60-1 setup with numbers. I don't know if i'm buying 520 whp on an SAFC 2 and a stock motor but I guess you never know.

Click me some info

**supermech21** · 10-19-2008, 08:12 PM

I didnt know what eric had on his car, mah bad. What si the difference, i was explained this once but didnt really care at the time. Is one an actually 60lb comp wheel and the other is a 55 i think? What are the difference in them?

91PumpKing. · 10-19-2008, 08:17 PM

60lb is a 60-1.
53lb is 60t.

both typically use a "stage 3" turbine wheel.

**supermech21** · 10-19-2008, 08:37 PM

So a 60 trim is barely any bigger than a 50 trim...correct?

So comprably the the 60-1 DBB has near the same spool and power out put as a BW s258...60lb wheel/DBB v.s. 58lb wheel/ET .....and both near the same price, 1200 for 60-1 and 1100 or so for the BW...

Just out of curiosity(i havent seen many BW in person) but the BW runs a journal bearing(non DBB) but with a extended tip to help with spool. If thats correct what if a DBB chra was used with the ET technology and a 60lb wheel...kind of a hybrid of a hybrid...anything like that out there? Im sure the price tag would be near 1600 and IF it all lined up the spool would destroy a car on the street but still would be fun...

91PumpKing. · 10-19-2008, 08:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21

So a 60 trim is barely any bigger than a 50 trim...correct?

So comprably the the 60-1 DBB has near the same spool and power out put as a BW s258...60lb wheel/DBB v.s. 58lb wheel/ET .....and both near the same price, 1200 for 60-1 and 1100 or so for the BW...

Just out of curiosity(i havent seen many BW in person) but the BW runs a journal bearing(non DBB) but with a extended tip to help with spool. If thats correct what if a DBB chra was used with the ET technology and a 60lb wheel...kind of a hybrid of a hybrid...anything like that out there? Im sure the price tag would be near 1600 and IF it all lined up the spool would destroy a car on the street but still would be fun...

50t - t-netics: 49lb, garrett: 46lb, agp: 50lb
so depending on the model, its pretty similar.

borg warner doesnt offer a dbb chra. a few shops have done a dbb for their shop cars tho. im sure it was all custom work, and cost a pretty penny.

considering a s256 spools at 36-3800, i can only imagine the s258 would be at 3800-3900. at that point, better off goin 3082 or 35r/.63 and get alot more power potential.

**supermech21** · 10-19-2008, 09:00 PM

and those turbos run? CHRA? Compressor wheel?

91PumpKing. · 10-19-2008, 09:07 PM

no specs. all i know is an independent shop (non-vendor) sent it out and got it converted. dont know to where. it was a s256.

**supermech21** · 10-19-2008, 09:38 PM

no no no...specs on the 3082 and 35r? as far as chra and wheel size

91PumpKing. · 10-19-2008, 09:42 PM

ooo. my mistake.

3082 = 35r compressor/30r turbine. 580-600 capable. ~3700-3800 spool verified by 3 others w/ em on here. use the .82ar w/ this to alleviate pressure since there will be a larger amount of back pressure due to the 30r turbine

09-28-2008, 10:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Flame SRTforums Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Member Number: 37340 Location: Bensalem, Pa Posts: 29,928	60-1 owners? post setups & dynos here Sticky. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by fl00ples 7" is perfect!

10-19-2008, 10:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
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10-19-2008, 02:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
supermech21 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Jun 2006 Member Number: 42969 Location: Norf Carolina Posts: 8,145	HCCAfan, them dogs are beautiful in your avatar... I have some questions about this turbo, from what i can collect they shine at 27-28lbs, not good on low boost. Now its easy to say, the turbo doesnt pull on low boost blah blah blah, why??? Does it just feel sluggish? Or will a 50 trim on 20lbs vs a 60-1 on 20lbs the 50 trim will win? I would assume for simple spool issues the 50 trim will pull harder but the 60-1 can make and hold power longer into the powerband correct? If price were no issue a BWs256 would be the best of both worlds from a 50 trim and 60-1, correct? fast spool and the ability to hold power long into the power band, correct? the 60-1 has always intrigued me but i see little no info on them, a lot like this thread. Are they any other numbers out there other than erabbits old set up, 490ish on stock cyl head/cams, built bottem end, smim, ems...touch of god tuning... __________________ Sold. 2011 Ford F150, FX4, Eco Boost...

10-19-2008, 03:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
SRT'dOff SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Member Number: 15237 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,586	Yeah eric's car was 60 trim NOT 60-1 definitely different turbos. I had a 60-1 couple years ago hp mani etc etc never got it running right poped the HG. Check this link out some info on a 60-1 setup with numbers. I don't know if i'm buying 520 whp on an SAFC 2 and a stock motor but I guess you never know. Click me some info __________________ 2004 SVT Cobra

10-19-2008, 08:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
supermech21 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Jun 2006 Member Number: 42969 Location: Norf Carolina Posts: 8,145	I didnt know what eric had on his car, mah bad. What si the difference, i was explained this once but didnt really care at the time. Is one an actually 60lb comp wheel and the other is a 55 i think? What are the difference in them? __________________ Sold. 2011 Ford F150, FX4, Eco Boost...

10-17-2008, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
HCCAFan SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Member Number: 35768 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 5,628	No one has one?

10-19-2008, 02:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
91PumpKing. User Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Member Number: 64760 Location: California. Posts: 9,915	TKMS did a while ago.

10-19-2008, 02:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
91PumpKing. User Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Member Number: 64760 Location: California. Posts: 9,915	erabbits car was a 60t...fairly different from a 60-1 fwiw.

10-19-2008, 08:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
91PumpKing. User Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Member Number: 64760 Location: California. Posts: 9,915	60lb is a 60-1. 53lb is 60t. both typically use a "stage 3" turbine wheel.

10-19-2008, 08:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
supermech21 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Jun 2006 Member Number: 42969 Location: Norf Carolina Posts: 8,145	So a 60 trim is barely any bigger than a 50 trim...correct? So comprably the the 60-1 DBB has near the same spool and power out put as a BW s258...60lb wheel/DBB v.s. 58lb wheel/ET .....and both near the same price, 1200 for 60-1 and 1100 or so for the BW... Just out of curiosity(i havent seen many BW in person) but the BW runs a journal bearing(non DBB) but with a extended tip to help with spool. If thats correct what if a DBB chra was used with the ET technology and a 60lb wheel...kind of a hybrid of a hybrid...anything like that out there? Im sure the price tag would be near 1600 and IF it all lined up the spool would destroy a car on the street but still would be fun... __________________ Sold. 2011 Ford F150, FX4, Eco Boost...

10-19-2008, 08:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
91PumpKing. User Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Member Number: 64760 Location: California. Posts: 9,915	Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21 So a 60 trim is barely any bigger than a 50 trim...correct? So comprably the the 60-1 DBB has near the same spool and power out put as a BW s258...60lb wheel/DBB v.s. 58lb wheel/ET .....and both near the same price, 1200 for 60-1 and 1100 or so for the BW... Just out of curiosity(i havent seen many BW in person) but the BW runs a journal bearing(non DBB) but with a extended tip to help with spool. If thats correct what if a DBB chra was used with the ET technology and a 60lb wheel...kind of a hybrid of a hybrid...anything like that out there? Im sure the price tag would be near 1600 and IF it all lined up the spool would destroy a car on the street but still would be fun... 50t - t-netics: 49lb, garrett: 46lb, agp: 50lb so depending on the model, its pretty similar. borg warner doesnt offer a dbb chra. a few shops have done a dbb for their shop cars tho. im sure it was all custom work, and cost a pretty penny. considering a s256 spools at 36-3800, i can only imagine the s258 would be at 3800-3900. at that point, better off goin 3082 or 35r/.63 and get alot more power potential.

10-19-2008, 09:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
supermech21 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Jun 2006 Member Number: 42969 Location: Norf Carolina Posts: 8,145	and those turbos run? CHRA? Compressor wheel? __________________ Sold. 2011 Ford F150, FX4, Eco Boost...

10-19-2008, 09:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
91PumpKing. User Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Member Number: 64760 Location: California. Posts: 9,915	no specs. all i know is an independent shop (non-vendor) sent it out and got it converted. dont know to where. it was a s256.

10-19-2008, 09:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
supermech21 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Jun 2006 Member Number: 42969 Location: Norf Carolina Posts: 8,145	no no no...specs on the 3082 and 35r? as far as chra and wheel size __________________ Sold. 2011 Ford F150, FX4, Eco Boost...

10-19-2008, 09:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
91PumpKing. User Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Member Number: 64760 Location: California. Posts: 9,915	ooo. my mistake. 3082 = 35r compressor/30r turbine. 580-600 capable. ~3700-3800 spool verified by 3 others w/ em on here. use the .82ar w/ this to alleviate pressure since there will be a larger amount of back pressure due to the 30r turbine

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