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Old 10-07-2009, 01:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default .57trim vs HP61?

I have both sitting here, will run on a ported kinetic log mani. setup is as follows:
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prefered turbo and why?
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Looks like your engine could take the abuse of both turbos(prolly not the hp61 at 30lbs or so) but whats in your tranny, i.e. your clutch...

If your tranny/clutch can handle 500hsp then i would run the hp61. But thats a far larger turbo than the 57trim.
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This is a little off topic, but the 60ft, e.t. and mph in your sig don't make sense. Even with spray.
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Looks like your engine could take the abuse of both turbos(prolly not the hp61 at 30lbs or so) but whats in your tranny, i.e. your clutch...

If your tranny/clutch can handle 500hsp then i would run the hp61. But thats a far larger turbo than the 57trim.

tranny is stock, until it goes then will be built..clutch hasn't ever slipped or shown signs of wear so im not worried about it, when it goes ill replace it thats not the problem...guess efficiency wise I feel like the .57 may > 61 in trerms of spool, but honestly i dont know how much i care about that at the track. 4400 is a awfully late spool for a 6500 redline lol, guess thats why i wanted some opinions


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This is a little off topic, but the 60ft, e.t. and mph in your sig don't make sense. Even with spray.

it was a 1.82 60' and an 11.8/118. i just forgot my pw/sn for the e-slips and have changed emails so much in the past year i dont remember which one it was i used
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Why are you worried about spool at the track? Get a WOT box and just WOT shift.

So your wanting to run one of these turbos on a stock clutch??? Why? Thats just dumb.

You said NOT DD, so i choose the track turbo.
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Why are you worried about spool at the track? Get a WOT box and just WOT shift.

So your wanting to run one of these turbos on a stock clutch??? Why? Thats just dumb.

You said NOT DD, so i choose the track turbo.

WOT shifts are a given, have had the WOT box for some time now...and who said anything about a stock clutch?

Clutch is strong and fine, should hold the power these both will put out much longer than the motor will lol..

HP61 needs a rebuild, and i guess if i can sell the .57 before it goes out ill probably end up going with that.
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real old vs. old



jus playin' w/ ya mang. why not sell both & get somethin' likea 3076 or 3082? don't know how big you wanna go but w/ either one of those & n20 you'll be phuckin' sailin' past the 1/.4.

EDIT: you still gonna run the nitrous kit??
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jus playin' w/ ya mang. why not sell both & get somethin' likea 3076 or 3082? don't know how big you wanna go but w/ either one of those & n20 you'll be phuckin' sailin' past the 1/.4.

EDIT: you still gonna run the nitrous kit??


this what can i say i like the classics lol...got the whole .57 kit 0 miles porting and after selling txs mbc and agp heatshield im at 800 bucks after buying anti surge housing

and the 61 was had with polished housing for 100 bones, but it barely drips a littleee oil..

and the nitrous IDK wtf im going to do with..im going to miss the powerband but then again every BT srt im in never runs fucking right lol so im not sure what to expect either...im going from the garage straight to janetty to dyno, no fucking around on the street thinking i know how to street tune

...wonder if it would hold together for a full pass on a baby shot like a 35, maybe just on the big end
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this what can i say i like the classics lol...got the whole .57 kit 0 miles porting and after selling txs mbc and agp heatshield im at 800 bucks after buying anti surge housing

and the 61 was had with polished housing for 100 bones, but it barely drips a littleee oil..

and the nitrous IDK wtf im going to do with..im going to miss the powerband but then again every BT srt im in never runs fucking right lol so im not sure what to expect either...im going from the garage straight to janetty to dyno, no fucking around on the street thinking i know how to street tune

...wonder if it would hold together for a full pass on a baby shot like a 35, maybe just on the big end

how fast you tryna go?

is your goal a certain mph? (125+)
jus wanna get thrown off the track? (11.5 or faster)
whp? (450whp+)
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how fast you tryna go?

is your goal a certain mph? (125+)
jus wanna get thrown off the track? (11.5 or faster)
whp? (450whp+)

a yes
b yes, immediately after my first pass
c yes, hopefully w/ the DP meth and 100 being on pump by my casa, 450 is a nice goal.

...and i mean, lets not forget my car is on a serious diet, probably ~2500...and i still have a sunroof to delete
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a yes
b yes, immediately after my first pass
c yes, hopefully w/ the DP meth and 100 being on pump by my casa, 450 is a nice goal.

...and i mean, lets not forget my car is on a serious diet, probably ~2500...and i still have a sunroof to delete

All very good answers.

If I had to pick between the two of them, I'd go hp61. does it have the 63 or 82 back half?
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All very good answers.

If I had to pick between the two of them, I'd go hp61. does it have the 63 or 82 back half?

i wanna say its 82.

odds are im sticking with the 57, i have an opportunity to get it all on this sat i think ill do it. then the meth jets just have to go in, RL finished and off to the dyno.
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get a clutch... clutch will go before your motor.
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get a clutch... clutch will go before your motor.

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I ran a HP61 for a while, it does spool pretty slow, but man, once it hits, it's insane. FWIW, I had a Clutch Masters S3, and spiked 27ish psi when I was out tuning. The clutch was not happy. Pretty sure it just glazed it over, but it slipped for the longest time after that.

My vote would be for the .57 trim. It's a better compromise going from a stock turbo / N20 car. It'd be a big jump to go straight to the HP61.
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