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Old 12-03-2008, 04:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Brakes aren't the easiest thing to just swap from one car to another. In the end it's much easier to buy a properly engineered big brake kit from either TCE or Stoptech. With all the variables that are associated with brake systems you should really leave it to the pros. My $.02

This reminds me of a thread from awhile back when somone was interested in swapping 300C SRT-8 calipers.

i was just thinking of that...i was part of that thread...reason was the Speed World Challenge rule on SRT4 brakes was they could only upgrade to 300c brake system. really doesn't make sense because the 300c is also 5X114.3.

Agreed on the TCE thing though. Just throwing big ass brakes on your car won't make it stop faster. If you really want to stop fast, get stainless lines, new oem rotors, hawk hps pads, and better/wider tires-tires being the most effective.
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Brakes aren't the easiest thing to just swap from one car to another. In the end it's much easier to buy a properly engineered big brake kit from either TCE or Stoptech. With all the variables that are associated with brake systems you should really leave it to the pros. My $.02

This reminds of a thread from awhile back when somone was interested in swapping 300C SRT-8 calipers.

Dodge big brake kit I like it.
It has the same 2.4l turbo charged motor fwd alittle heavier.
I guess worst came to worst I could sell my rims and change the hubs and brakes and call it a day. I know this can be done nothing is hard it just takes time and R&D.
I already have a wilwood bbk not impressed!, I have a friend with the stoptec.
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Brakes aren't the easiest thing to just swap from one car to another. In the end it's much easier to buy a properly engineered big brake kit from either TCE or Stoptech. With all the variables that are associated with brake systems you should really leave it to the pros. My $.02

This reminds me of a thread from awhile back when somone was interested in swapping 300C SRT-8 calipers.

i was thinkin the same thing. how did it go?? end in a flop?
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Rotora's are working well. Used their new H9 pads last month at Laguna. Very consistant pedal feel with great initial bite & lasted all day. I need to upgrade my rear stock brakes to better pads than the Hawk HP+'s. I was getting so much brake in the front that she was getting ass happy.
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Rotora's are working well. Used their new H9 pads last month at Laguna. Very consistant pedal feel with great initial bite & lasted all day. I need to upgrade my rear stock brakes to better pads than the Hawk HP+'s. I was getting so much brake in the front that she was getting ass happy.

i think the rotora's are a bit out of his price range though at what-2500$ all around?

OP, if you're willing to do the R&D on it go for it. I didn't know you already had a BBK. Good luck. Personally I just can't see that much of a gain for all the work you'll need to do. Although, now would be a great time for a completely custom hub/spindle
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Keep in mind when it comes to "being impressed", the pad is a huge factor. A warmed up DTC70 will "impress" you on the stock brakes. The main difference is how long they will impress. The BBK's will last all day without change where as the stock setup with a great pad seems to eventually give toward the end of the day. A BBK with shitty pads will suck more than our stock setup. A big vented rotor is a huge help as well.
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Rotora's are working well. Used their new H9 pads last month at Laguna. Very consistant pedal feel with great initial bite & lasted all day. I need to upgrade my rear stock brakes to better pads than the Hawk HP+'s. I was getting so much brake in the front that she was getting ass happy.

Did you upgrade the rotor in the rear too?
I have everything done for brakes except ss lines in the rear.
The car brakes decent but the pad wear sucks cuz there anit much pad.
That's why I was looking at doing this Dodge bbk pads would be good for 30,000 miles and stop on a dime.
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Did you upgrade the rotor in the rear too?
I have everything done for brakes except ss lines in the rear.
The car brakes decent but the pad wear sucks cuz there anit much pad.
That's why I was looking at doing this Dodge bbk pads would be good for 30,000 miles and stop on a dime.

Can you provide a link to this Dodge BBK?
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Can you provide a link to this Dodge BBK?

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LOL, touche!

Anyway, I gotta go. Good luck with this though. I hope you follow through with it. I wasn't trying to give you shit, just playing devil's advocate. Make sure you document all your work. It sux when someone does something cool like this and doesn't document it.

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i think the rotora's are a bit out of his price range though at what-2500$ all around?

OP, if you're willing to do the R&D on it go for it. I didn't know you already had a BBK. Good luck. Personally I just can't see that much of a gain for all the work you'll need to do. Although, now would be a great time for a completely custom hub/spindle

I will and I agree custom hub/spindle would be nice.
But I think that's not the problem and would be $$
I suggest Rotors 5x100 that match these 5x114 Caliber srt-4 rotors.
Bam! we got a Factory big brake kit
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LOL, touche!

Anyway, I gotta go. Good luck with this though. I hope you follow through with it. I wasn't trying to give you shit, just playing devil's advocate. Make sure you document all your work. It sux when someone does something cool like this and doesn't document it.

G/L bro!

Naw I'm not touche lol
I just know from working on all makes of cars that most parts can be found from other cars or the same auto maker.
Example 1) I have a 71 240z The big brake kit I would use on that is Toyota 4 piston calipers $33 bucks each and nissian 300zx rotors in the front. And nissian max or 240sx in the rear.

That's why I love cars You can always find the part that will work for what you want to do. It just might not come from the same auto maker.

But in this case I think dodge kept it simple and I don't think this would be a hard swap by anymeans to do. Just got to find rotors I'll check into this more
but If it can be done for under $1,000 all 4 brakes it would be worth it.
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Dodge big brake kit I like it.
It has the same 2.4l turbo charged motor fwd alittle heavier.
I guess worst came to worst I could sell my rims and change the hubs and brakes and call it a day. I know this can be done nothing is hard it just takes time and R&D.
I already have a wilwood bbk not impressed!, I have a friend with the stoptec.

Just to begin do you know what size master cylinder the Caliber SRT-4 uses? Trust me, it's much more involved then engine size and vehicle weight.

As for the Wilwood BBK, it's ok for it's purpose. Not much better then our stock brakes however it has potentially better fade resistance because of the larger rotor. Just so there's no confusion, the TCE plus 2 & 3 kits are not Wilwood kits, they only use their calipers. For $1300+ you're not going to get much better braking performance for the dollar. All that time spent on R&D is already done for you.
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Op, the srt-4 caliber has a wheel bearing/hub assembly that bolts to the spindle. The neon is pressed in. Not interchangeable. So unless you can put a 5x114.3 hub on your car you can give up right there. But I believe people have had luck with putting a caravan hub on a neon. So go over to neons.org and do some searching, you might get lucky.
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There are a couple guys running 300c/magnum calipers on their cars. Dunno about rotors, but probably.
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