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Old 01-28-2013, 09:49 AM   #76 (permalink)
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You have twice now suggested that the "core/shell/collar" be removed. Which is not only incorrect but potentially reckless.

Everyone who owns an SRT-4 needs to know that your expertise does NOT extend past you taking pictures of someone else working on your car 1.5 years ago.

Your baseless opinions just add confusion and should be categorically ignored

I'd consider that very helpful.,,you're welcome

The inner collar was a talking point you phukking idiot.
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Just talked to Prothane. The guy I talked to said he was going to have to talk to an engineer and get back to me. Not much help yet nut I made sure to mention that I wasn't the first one for this to happen to.

Someone just called me back and I sent him some pictures
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Just talked to Prothane. The guy I talked to said he was going to have to talk to an engineer and get back to me. Not much help yet nut I made sure to mention that I wasn't the first one for this to happen to.

Someone just called me back and I sent him some pictures

Did they say they'd like to have some of the bushing back for analysis?
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Did they say they'd like to have some of the bushing back for analysis?

Not yet just wanted the pictures waiting to see what they say
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Hopefully they'll see fit to offer a replacement set of the bushigns.
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Hopefully they'll see fit to offer a replacement set of the bushigns.

That and a guy to install them for me! Already lost to many hours of my life to this project.
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Mopar parts aren't always identical to factory. Mopar often changes vendors after the car ceases production. I sold parts at the Dodge dealer for over 5 years and this happened all the time.

2nd set just as bad?

Makes sense, I work at sell parts at a Volvo dealership and I can attest to parts changing. The arms looked the same when paired up off the car though. The only difference was the grease fitting on the ball-joint.

Yes, 2nd set was just as bad.
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Ok just got off the phone with Dominick from Prothane...

He said that they are aware of the issues with their LCA bushing and are currently working on a redesign that should be out in a few weeks. He did say that they believe my bushings would be fine in the condition that they were in but would send me a new set when their redesign is complete.

I plan on posting new pictures when the new set is in.
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When you get your new re-designed bushings, if the shape is different, or if they just send you a firmer durometer - post up some photos

If the new bushings represent a huge upgrade I'll get a set and have them reinstalled
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When you get your new re-designed bushings, if the shape is different, or if they just send you a firmer durometer - post up some photos

If the new bushings represent a huge upgrade I'll get a set and have them reinstalled

I believe he said that they were going to be a new design. He also said that one of their employees used to work for ES so I wonder if it will be similar to their design in someway... Either way I will post up pics when I receive them so that the information is out there.

Anybody considering Prothane LCA bushings should probably wait untill the new design is out just to be safe IMO.
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Ok just got off the phone with Dominick from Prothane...

He said that they are aware of the issues with their LCA bushing and are currently working on a redesign that should be out in a few weeks. He did say that they believe my bushings would be fine in the condition that they were in but would send me a new set when their redesign is complete.

I plan on posting new pictures when the new set is in.

there is no way the condition urs are in are fine, what if the bushing tears. do you know what ur car would do at 60mph and that bushing tears off complete i mean it prob wont but it will for damn sure put ur ass in the side wall. I wouldn't drive the car like that. i mean if u have to just drive safe untill ur new order arrives.
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I believe he said that they were going to be a new design. He also said that one of their employees used to work for ES so I wonder if it will be similar to their design is someway....

Lets hope so. The Prothane design is by far inferior to ES.
The hard pivot ring in the ES is what sets it apart and the lack of any define pivot point for the LCA is what makes the Prothane design mediocre at best.
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there is no way the condition urs are in are fine, what if the bushing tears. do you know what ur car would do at 60mph and that bushing tears off complete i mean it prob wont but it will for damn sure put ur ass in the side wall. I wouldn't drive the car like that. i mean if u have to just drive safe untill ur new order arrives.

They cant be anymore dangerous then the OEM design. Mine were shot to shit for who knows how long. Not that I would want to drive with them like that again though. I think they will be fine for (hopefully) just a few months on the car.

Even with them bulging, the front end felt tighter and wheel hop was virtually eliminated.
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They cant be anymore dangerous then the OEM design. Mine were shot to shit for who knows how long. Not that I would want to drive with them like that again though. I think they will be fine for (hopefully) just a few months on the car.

Even with them bulging, the front end felt tighter and wheel hop was virtually eliminated.

Moyeah I think your're right. My rear c-arm bushings/assembly fell apart when we took them off the chassis for the poly install. The OEM bushing material was like old styrofoam - crumbled out.
My front c-arms bushings were like old bathroom caulk - dry, brittle, cracking, weak, disintegrating.

Maybe the ES suspension employee at Prothane has some new elegant design better than previously seen! WOOF. Hoot hoot.!!
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Here is how mine look today. Just like they looked when I installed them myself back in December, no bulging, no gaps, car rides nice and tight, they work great. I have put the car through its paces and they have been able to take some abuse and not fail. Original control arms (I bought car new), car is not lowered, bushings purchased from Summit Racing May 2012.

I believe I read on this site ES redesigned their front lower control bushings once, correct?

Sorry to see these failures happen hopefully Prothane will come up with a better design to stop these failure.
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