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Old 08-23-2005, 01:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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INFO: Sway bar setups and Specs (sticky maybe?)

So here's a list of sway bar sizes. Stock sway bar sizes, aftermarket sway bar sizes, and a few other specs, and info. that might be helpful.

I'm doing this because it gets a little tiring sifting through 2391832908 posts to find out about different setups, their specs, pro's and con's, etc. I've been doin some reading on all of the sway bar setups. I hope all of the information below is correct. If not....feel free to correct me and I will edit the post. Replies would be nice too....I'm sure there's more info out there.

Please feel free to read through the rest of the thread, there's good feedback and it may answer some questions you have.

2003-2005 SRT-4 Sway Bars:
24mm Front / 17mm Rear

01-04 R/T and 01-02 ACR:
22mm front / 19mm rear

Neon ACR Sway Bars:
24mm Front / 19mm Rear

Mopar Swaybars:
26mm Front / 19mm Rear
* Heavier than stock, and Hotchkis
* A tad on the expensive side
*The rears are, however, 3 way adjustable.


PTGT/ACR a.k.a "WELFARE" Sways:
26mm Front / 19mm Rear
*Seem to be the best bang for the buck. I've come to understand that the PT/ACR setup is the same as the WELFARE setup. Utilizes a PT Cruiser front swaybar and an ACR rear swaybar.
*Part numbers are as follows: Front-5085656AA / Rear- 4656855AA
*Most people seem to agree that ordering these from Mopar Super Center (a supporting vendor) is cheap and easy, and you can also get them from Speed and Power Development

Hotchkis Sways:
29mm Front / 24mm Rear
*According to people's posts/opinions...they seem to reduce more understeer and are hollow and therefore lighter than its competitors.
*The rear is also 2 way adjustable
*They also come w/endlinks and bushings.
* Seen the following vendors offering these: i61motorsports, titan motorsports (see this post Welfare sways vs. Hotchkis sways ) and JSC speed.

Progress Sways:
*27mm solid front and 24mm solid adjustable rear and/or 22mm rear
*3 way adjustable rear. (24mm)
*Come with bushings and hardware (heim joints for the rear).
*Seem to be a little heavier.

Perrin Rear Sway Bar:
22mm
*comes with bushings, but not endlinks
*not adjustable.

You should also invest in bushings:

Mopar SS Bushings:
For 26mm Front: Part No. 5272646AA
For 19mm Rear: Part No. 4656946AA

or

Energy Suspension Polyurethane Bushings:
Front: Part No. 9-5110G
Rear: Part No. 9-5106G
*I found them for sale here, at $13.95 the pair:
http://besttop.ru/s/9-5106G+energy+suspension/
http://besttop.ru/cat12990531/page-4.html
*Some people, however, say that you can order them from your local NAPA auto parts. That might be more convenient for most people.

IMPORTANT!!! EDIT: The following information was provided by Valley Racer:

Quote: Originally Posted by Valley Racer
The provided part#'s are for Energy suspension universal bushings. They WILL NOT work on an SRT. Please see energysuspension.com or PROTHANE for a precise bushing replacement product kit and individual part#'s PRECISELY for the SRT. You can find an illustration of the bushings on modernperformance.com to see why UNIVERSAL style won't fit.
The provided URL's redirect to a list of bushings for Jetta/Mazda/Civic. Currently, the only non-available part is the rear frame bushing due to the 19mm rear bar diameter on the ACR. I'm ordering the item anyway (from suspension.com) and going to remove 2mm of material from the hole so it will fit my ACR.
Many auto part stores do carry Energy Susp 9-8119 rear end links and 5.8107 (front end links) as the link stack height is identical on many cars.

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Old 08-23-2005, 01:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Energy Suspension Polyurethane Bushings:
Front: Part No. 9-5110G
Rear: Part No. 9-5106G

What size are these?
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The mopar are 26mm up front and 19mm in the rear and the rears are 3 way adjustable
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Quote: Originally Posted by blahblah
What size are these?

I did a quick search and found this info on this website: http://besttop.ru/cat12990531/page-4.html

Energy Suspension ENS-9-5110G: 1 in. diameter, black, sway bar bushings by Energy Suspension

This set of polyurethane bushings will help tighten up your handling. This kit includes two non-greaseable bushings with mounting brackets. Frame Bushings Included: Yes Frame Bushings Greasable: No Sway Bar Diameter (in): 1 in. Sway Bar Diameter (mm): 25mm End Links Included: No Bushing Material: Polyurethane Bushing Color: Black Mounting Bracket To Sway Bar Centerline Height: 3/4 in. Overall Sway Bar Bracket Height: 1 3/4 in. Sway Bar Bracket Maximum Bolt Center To Center: 3 5/8 in. Sway Bar Bracket Minimum Bolt Center To Center: 2 9/16 in. Quantity: Sold as a pair. Notes: Not recommended for fullsize pickups. Universal (application): Yes Bushing Position: Front Universal (application): Yes Bushing Position: Rear

http://besttop.ru/s/9-5106G+energy+suspension/
Energy Suspension ENS-9-5106G: 3/4 in. diameter, black, sway bar bushings by Energy Suspension

This set of polyurethane bushings will help tighten up your handling. This kit includes two non-greaseable bushings with mounting brackets. Frame Bushings Included: Yes Frame Bushings Greasable: No Sway Bar Diameter (in): 3/4 in. Sway Bar Diameter (mm): 19mm End Links Included: No Bushing Material: Polyurethane Bushing Color: Black Mounting Bracket To Sway Bar Centerline Height: 3/4 in. Overall Sway Bar Bracket Height: 1 3/4 in. Sway Bar Bracket Maximum Bolt Center To Center: 3 5/8 in. Sway Bar Bracket Minimum Bolt Center To Center: 2 9/16 in. Quantity: Sold as a pair. Notes: Not recommended for fullsize pickups. Universal (application): Yes Bushing Position: Front Universal (application): Yes Bushing Position: Rear
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Yes the welfare setup is the PT/ACR setup because its so cheap and works well. Nice post!
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Quote: Originally Posted by littlepvt
The mopar are 26mm up front and 19mm in the rear and the rears are 3 way adjustable

Thanks, I went ahead and made the correction.
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Quote: Originally Posted by cfree
Yes the welfare setup is the PT/ACR setup because its so cheap and works well. Nice post!

Thanks. I hoped it would be a pretty helpful post for anyone else lookin' for info on this stuff. I had to sift through about 7 pages of threads and I don't know how many actual post pages and posts. LOL But hopefully this can be made a sticky and help everyone else out a little.
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Im sure it will be a sticky. I already have the pt/acr setup, but i havent got bushings yet. Maybe you could edit where to buy them and how much?
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Quote: Originally Posted by cfree
Im sure it will be a sticky. I already have the pt/acr setup, but i havent got bushings yet. Maybe you could edit where to buy them and how much?

If you look about 4 posts up there are a couple links and the prices on those links are about $13.95 for the pair.

I've seen a few people post that they've ordered the bushings through NAPA Autoparts though, so that might be a more viable solution for everyone.

I went ahead and added the locations like u suggested though.

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btw the hotchkis do come with bushings
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Quote: Originally Posted by Philip550c
btw the hotchkis do come with bushings

Sweeeet. Even more of a reason to save up for them.

thanks, i'll add the info.
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bump for a sticky!
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Quote: Originally Posted by SRT-Fatale
Hotchkis Sways:
29mm Front / 24mm Rear
*According to people's posts/opinions...they seem to reduce more understeer and are hollow and therefore lighter than its competitors.
*The rear is also 2 way adjustable
*They also come w/endlinks and bushings.
* Seen the following vendors offering these: i61motorsports, titan motorsports (see this post Welfare sways vs. Hotchkis sways ) and JSC speed.

Logic Performance (logicperformance.com) offers them also... I got mine from them, they shipped them the very same day I ordered them.
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FWIW, according to info posted here (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107143&highlight=9.5110, post #9), that front ES bushing will not work.
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just for reference perrin makes a rear sway bar in 22mm that comes with bushings, but not endlinks, and is not adjustable.
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