HIDs with no projector??? - SRT Forums

kr1pt1ksrt · 12-13-2005, 11:34 AM

My friend has a 1995 Toyota Supra and he has HIDs on his car. I told him that i wanted to put HIDs on my car and i showed him that how to and he just laughed because he said that putting in projectors is just a waste because he did his w/o them and they look fine. Is this true or what???

Turbo Jeff · 12-13-2005, 11:38 AM

yes you can put hids in your car without putting in a projector lens. It's the easiest and cheapest way to get hids. You will need a 9007 hid kit.

**haknslash** · 12-13-2005, 11:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by kr1pt1ksrt

My friend has a 1995 Toyota Supra and he has HIDs on his car. I told him that i wanted to put HIDs on my car and i showed him that how to and he just laughed because he said that putting in projectors is just a waste because he did his w/o them and they look fine. Is this true or what???

Then your friend has isn't too smart and chooses to go cheap like the rest of society as a whole. He is a ricer that put a kit in his car. This is what ricers do. They buy things that are the cheapest, least cost efficient, most annoying crap there is and install it on their car to be like something its not. Then when they see something superior or better than theirs, they start hating. Tell him "horray" for joining the masses of being a ricer HID kit owner

. The projectors in a Supra were designed for halogen use ONLY just like the reflector housing in the neon headlight. Not only that but they are old halogen projector technology that sucks ass in todays modern projector world despite him adding his glare-inducing uber kewl aftermarket kit.

. People that buy HID "kits" are often in HID just for the "looks", not the performance that HID can bring to the table IF done properly i.e. a HID projector retro. If thats the case, save your money and just go buy some silverstars.

Simply put, your friend doesn't know WTF he is talking about. If he laughed at the how-to then he was just lauging at his own stupidity. I bet if you told him a retro will give him "2-3 BPU" then he would be all over it

A kit will NEVER be able to compair to the performance you get from doing a HID projector retro. Never ever ever.

Have your supra buddy watch this video then compair his Kit beam pattern to that of this TL/Supra retro http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....5-56593B960492

Or he can check out this thread to help him understand visually Performance differences between a aftermarket HID kit and a OEM HID retro

wannasupra · 12-13-2005, 12:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by haknslash

He is a ricer that put a kit in his car. This is what ricers do. They buy things that are the cheapest, least cost efficient, most annoying crap there is and install it on their car to be like something its not. Then when they see something superior or better than theirs, they start hating. Tell him "horray" for joining the masses of being a ricer HID kit owner

People that buy HID "kits" are often in HID just for the "looks"

damn electrical wizards.

**haknslash** · 12-13-2005, 12:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wannasupra

damn electrical wizards.

hehe well I had to tell it like it is. Sadly its the truth for the most part. If they were concerned with performance, they would of opted for a different route rather than the cheaper route. People always need to remember that you get what you pay for.

You buy a $10 turbo expect it to perform like a $10 turbo ya know. Thats about the best I could put it

kr1pt1ksrt · 12-13-2005, 01:01 PM

His HIDs dont look any worse then all the other pictures that i have seen of the retro HIDs with the projectors.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v290/C...urrent=Hid.jpg
^pic of supra w/o projectors

**haknslash** · 12-13-2005, 01:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by kr1pt1ksrt

His HIDs dont look any worse then all the other pictures that i have seen of the retro HIDs with the projectors.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v290/C...urrent=Hid.jpg
^pic of supra w/o projectors

From that picture there isn't much I can tell other than camera glare or glare from the stock projector. The problem he will more than likely be facing won't be a glare related issue because the stock projector on a Supra does a "decent" job at blocking unwanted light above the cutoff. The more important issue is that he more than likely has is the lack of a nice, WIDE and evenly distributed lighting pattern. Uneven lighting paterns have a bad issue with having "hot spots". These hot spots cause your eye to automatically focus on the bad sections rather than the beam as a whole, like its supposed to on say a much more wider and evenly distributed beam pattern found on a HID projector. This also causes eye strain. Imagine getting in a car, turning on the lights and pratically feel like you have a nice pillow of lihgt ahead of you in almost all situations. well, that is how it is on a retro if done properly or a OEM HID equipped car. Its hard to explain or put in words until you see it first hand. I can guarantee you his kit does not perform anywhere on par with a retro. Believe what you wish though. I have given you the correct answers. Its up to you to make your own definative choice and go from there. I'm just here to shed lihgt on the right path to pursue lighting.

kr1pt1ksrt · 12-13-2005, 01:39 PM

I want to retrofit with projectors but i really have no clue how to do it. i read the whole sticky how to and it looks pretty difficult and i wouldnt know where to even get the shit that i would need to do it

Remax Realtor · 12-13-2005, 01:45 PM

hak does them

SR20SRT-4 · 12-13-2005, 02:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by haknslash

Then your friend has isn't too smart and chooses to go cheap like the rest of society as a whole. He is a ricer that put a kit in his car. This is what ricers do. They buy things that are the cheapest, least cost efficient, most annoying crap there is and install it on their car to be like something its not. Then when they see something superior or better than theirs, they start hating. Tell him "horray" for joining the masses of being a ricer HID kit owner

. The projectors in a Supra were designed for halogen use ONLY just like the reflector housing in the neon headlight. Not only that but they are old halogen projector technology that sucks ass in todays modern projector world despite him adding his glare-inducing uber kewl aftermarket kit.

. People that buy HID "kits" are often in HID just for the "looks", not the performance that HID can bring to the table IF done properly i.e. a HID projector retro. If thats the case, save your money and just go buy some silverstars.

Simply put, your friend doesn't know WTF he is talking about. If he laughed at the how-to then he was just lauging at his own stupidity. I bet if you told him a retro will give him "2-3 BPU" then he would be all over it

A kit will NEVER be able to compair to the performance you get from doing a HID projector retro. Never ever ever.

Have your supra buddy watch this video then compair his Kit beam pattern to that of this TL/Supra retro http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....5-56593B960492

Or he can check out this thread to help him understand visually Performance differences between a aftermarket HID kit and a OEM HID retro

kr1pt1ksrt · 12-13-2005, 03:05 PM

hak, how much would it cost you to do a pair of lights??

**haknslash** · 12-13-2005, 03:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by kr1pt1ksrt

hak, how much would it cost you to do a pair of lights??

FYI, on average a typical retro can run anyone from $300-$1000's depending on what they get and do.

I have not got my vendor status yet and will not post any info until I do. Sorry man but its the rules.