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Old 01-19-2005, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Experimenting with new lights

I picked up the Sylvania Silverstar's to use for my headlights and fogs, seriously night and day difference. Now I just have to get rid of those nasty amber turns.

So, I went to autolumination and picked up two 3157 matrix 25 LED amber bulbs and two of the 6ohm LED load equalizers. I've got the diagram, but does anyone have any pictures of the equalizers and where you have them positioned? (I don't want to melt anything)

While I was at it, I picked up some red/blue inverted 194 LED's for my dash, hopefully it will come out a nice purple glow. Also grabbed a 194 wide angle red one for my boost gauge (purple dash, red hvac and gauges).

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Old 01-20-2005, 10:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Only 1 view, rofl.

Guess I should make the question more clear: Can anyone who has used led's for turns and had to impliment the load equalizers please post a pic or description of where you have the equalizers?
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yea id like to know too. i plan on getting the matrix 25 led turns and the 4 led 194 bulbs in white. anyone know???
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Old 01-24-2005, 10:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Okay so I got my LED's on Sunday (express mail, keeps trying till you get it) and installed the ones for my dash and gauge. The purple is as dim as the blue, but unfortunately if you're looking at it when its dark, the purple blurs; similar to looking at a black light. I'm going to pull those out and use them for my gauges and hvac, and use the red for my gauge cluster.

I had some problems with the 25led matrix bulbs. I started with the passenger side headlight. Its a pretty simple process and I found the best place to mount the load equalizer is on the frame below where the headlight assembly is. If you have the trunk open and you're looking down at the headlights from above them, beside where the turning bulbs are in the assembly there's a triangle in the frame where the headlights mount to. Below that there's a section of frame about a 6" wide and 4" deep with a nice oval opening behind it. I mounted the load equalizer to that section of frame. The headlight assembly clears it with about 2" in every direction, its a perfect place.

Installation was pretty straight forward. Rotate the blinker assembly to pull it out of the headlight assembly, pull the bulb out, put the new LED bulb in (its a loose fit, doesn't click in like the other one does) and put it back into the headlight assembly. Coming off the back of the blinker are 3 wires; one that is colored and then two black ones. Take the blue clips, one goes one each wire with a wire from the equalizer in each as well, then clamp them. Mount equalizer and you (should) be done.

The passenger side went on fine, I reconnected the power and it was beautiful. When I moved to the drivers side I followed the same process, but when I reconnected the power and turned on the parking lights, fuse 15 in the mini-fuse box inside the car blew. I checked all the wiring, replaced the fuse and tried it again, still blew. So I took everything out trying to figure out what the problem was, tested the equalizer on a multimeter and it was resisting 6ohms. I hooked up some hookup wire to give me more play with the equalizer and the fuse blew again. I tried turning the equalizer around incase it was picky as to what side to hook up. Still blew the fuse. At this time it was around 8:00pm and I needed to eat, so took off the equalizer, capped the wires, and put the stock bulb back in. Working fine now, but does anyone know why its not letting me hook up the two equalizers? Im going to hook up the multimeter to the wires coming from the splicers and make sure one is an active line and the other is a ground, but other then that I'm out of ideas.

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Old 01-24-2005, 10:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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TTIWWOPs! lol Let's see what it looks like when you're done.
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You've probably seen this, but it might help if you havne't:

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Yeah I followed that. When I only had the passenger side done (with the equalizer) and the drivers side was untouched (stock) it worked fine, blinked fine, no problems. When I did the drivers side (with the equalizer) it blew the fuse. I tried flipping the equalizer and same thing. I just emailed Chris at autolumination to see if he has any suggestions, but I've tried about everything I can think of aside from making sure those splicers did the trick. I'll whip out the multi-meter tonight to be sure, but I did use that diagram for hooking up the resistors.
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Update: I emailed Chris at autolumination and got a reply back within an hour. He said it sounds like the turn signals are on the same circuit as the fog lights, and asked if I had done anything to the fogs. Damn that man is smart, I distinctly remember the fuse cover saying "fogs/interior", so he nailed it on the head. I stuck sylvania silverstar fog lights in there. Apparently the combination of the silverstars and the new LED's (which draw slightly more then the normal blinkers) is overloading the 15amp fuse. He suggested stiking a 20amp fuse in its place and seeing if it holds.

I'll post my findings tonight. Once again, I must say Autolumination is the greatest, fast shipping and a great support experience too!

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Good post! I had the same problem with blowing my fuse. Now do u have to use equalizers? Please post back about the 20amp fuse.
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If you're using the matrix 25led turns, they take a lot more juice to power and create more forward wattage, thats why the 6ohm resistors are on there for the blinking. Even with those on both lines, the addition of both of those plus the fogs is just too much for a 15amp fuse. Chris also said don't stick anything more then a 20amp in there. I'm actually wondering, anybody with car audio and the like experience, is it bad to stick a 20amp in a 15amp place? I trust Chris' advice, just wondering if anybody has done it successfully when the need arises.
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got ne pics???
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U know, APC makes about 30 different color of xx57 series bulbs.
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I always thought you couldn't put more then 12led bulbs in? I wanna add LED's on my front signals, side markers and taillights but not sure what I would need to do to stop my fuses from blowing and not have them blink like they're on crack! I put on some walmart led 3157 bulbs in the tail lights a month ago and they blew out 3 fuses!
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Any updates on this? Did swapping the fuses work out for you?
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How's the light output with the 25 LED's? is it better/worse/same as the OEM bulbs? I tried several different LED's but they all sucked...
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