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Old 03-14-2008, 11:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Who drew the Florida, Mexico, Guatemala borders?

Ok since you obviously don't know geography/history or anthropology I'll make it simple. Big ass river west of fla is called the missisippi, big ass body of water between fla and guatamala is called the gulf of mexico. 90% of the natives to the new world died from disease not warefare, and it wasn't intentional the first explorers discribed large groups of people in the SE USA and the second waves of explorers were baffled by the lack of people (you can look up the accounts in a history book not some dumbass political pamplet) Florida has ZERO native tribes left the seminole are not from here. Fla was settled by the spanish who are white, if you are brown skinned and speak spanish like paul moody said don't confuse race with ethnicity. The most recent anthropological finds strongly suggest that europeans were here first and displaced by later immigrants from asia, so we technically are just taking it back. There were hundreds of native tribes in the USA so don't think one group speaks for all. Put down the reconquista la rasa books and read a real history book.
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
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BTW maybe if the natives learned proper farming tecniques and animal husbandry they would have fared a little better. Slash and burn farming was and is still practiced by the poor brown people around the world. Forests in Europe and North America are healthy and growing while the rain forests are being destroyed. Maybe we did the world a favor by taking the new world in order to preserve it.
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or are you talking about injuns? cuz they got fucked. hard. i'm talking half carved totem pole, BOOM, right up the rectum.

i think he is going to say that Mexicans are actually Native Americans that were driven from the country by the white man, thus our current rules don't apply to them.



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Quote: Originally Posted by doonan75 View Post
Ok since you obviously don't know geography/history or anthropology I'll make it simple. Big ass river west of fla is called the missisippi, big ass body of water between fla and guatamala is called the gulf of mexico. 90% of the natives to the new world died from disease not warefare, and it wasn't intentional the first explorers discribed large groups of people in the SE USA and the second waves of explorers were baffled by the lack of people (you can look up the accounts in a history book not some dumbass political pamplet) Florida has ZERO native tribes left the seminole are not from here. Fla was settled by the spanish who are white, if you are brown skinned and speak spanish like paul moody said don't confuse race with ethnicity. The most recent anthropological finds strongly suggest that europeans were here first and displaced by later immigrants from asia, so we technically are just taking it back. There were hundreds of native tribes in the USA so don't think one group speaks for all. Put down the reconquista la rasa books and read a real history book.



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I liked that fix up a beat up car and the original owner wants it back analogy. But anyway Mexicans are citizens of the country of Mexico nothing more nothing less. I saw something where the whites didn't bring over all diseases. They explored lots of areas and picked up things from the islands and infected areas where they were destined to go anyway from the indigenous people trading with each other. Did whites make things worse? Yes. White people came to new world and died left and right catching things they were not immune to either. No condoms!
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Ok since you obviously don't know geography/history or anthropology I'll make it simple. Big ass river west of fla is called the missisippi, big ass body of water between fla and guatamala is called the gulf of mexico. 90% of the natives to the new world died from disease not warefare, and it wasn't intentional the first explorers discribed large groups of people in the SE USA and the second waves of explorers were baffled by the lack of people (you can look up the accounts in a history book not some dumbass political pamplet) Florida has ZERO native tribes left the seminole are not from here. Fla was settled by the spanish who are white, if you are brown skinned and speak spanish like paul moody said don't confuse race with ethnicity. The most recent anthropological finds strongly suggest that europeans were here first and displaced by later immigrants from asia, so we technically are just taking it back. There were hundreds of native tribes in the USA so don't think one group speaks for all. Put down the reconquista la rasa books and read a real history book.

Technically the bold statement is inaccurate. Look up the history of Spain and you will find that the Moors invaded and occupied Spain for quite some time. It would be foolish to think that integration did not occur. I always bring up this point when someone call someone from Spain white.
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Technically the bold statement is inaccurate. Look up the history of Spain and you will find that the Moors invaded and occupied Spain for quite some time. It would be foolish to think that integration did not occur. I always bring up this point when someone call someone from Spain white.

trust me I know history and I am sure there was intergration as I have already talked about in another thread, but the majority of spainards consider themselves white as do the greeks/italians and the various eastern european countries. Fuck look at some white southerners ever wonder where bubba got that flat nose/curly hair or dark eyes from? They are still considered white as well. So you are being a bit foolsih about what is and is not white. that and newsflash the moors were still caucasion anyways. In fact there are only 3 races on this planet (asian/negro and caucasion) with a spectrum of colors and mixtures between the 3.
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Who drew the Florida, Mexico, Guatemala borders?

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ended the Mexican-American War (1846–1848). The treaty provided for the Mexican Cession, in which Mexico ceded 525,000 square miles to the United States in exchange for $15 million. The United States also agreed to take over $3.25 million in debts Mexico owed to American citizens.

The cession that the treaty facilitated included parts of the modern-day U.S. states of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, and Wyoming, as well as the whole of California, Nevada, and Utah. The remaining parts of what are today the states of Arizona and New Mexico were later ceded under the 1853 Gadsden Purchase.

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trust me I know history and I am sure there was intergration as I have already talked about in another thread, but the majority of spainards consider themselves white as do the greeks/italians and the various eastern european countries. Fuck look at some white southerners ever wonder where bubba got that flat nose/curly hair or dark eyes from? They are still considered white as well. So you are being a bit foolsih about what is and is not white. that and newsflash the moors were still caucasion anyways. In fact there are only 3 races on this planet (asian/negro and caucasion) with a spectrum of colors and mixtures between the 3.

So what you are trying to tell me is that Muslims from North Africa are white?
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I never said "white" but caucasian none the less, but yes there were and are "white" people in the muslim world including NA. Ever meet an Arab? Not the dirt bags you see on the news but an educated upper class arab? Many do in fact look "white". There are plenty of red head and blue/green eyed arabs. Caucasian is about more than skin color, it is based on dentition/bone morphology(particularly the skull) hair growth patterns(beards and chest hair) and believe it or not the vascular system (matter of debate).

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Our forefathers conquered this land. Therefore it is now ours and they are the illegals. Thats just the way it is. /thread.
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This thread made me laugh. I love Pre-Civil War history.
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Me too. I want to study it more when i can make time to. Its def. not as pretty as we like to pretend it is.

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This thread made me laugh. I love Pre-Civil War history.

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Quote: Originally Posted by doonan75 View Post
I never said "white" but caucasian none the less, but yes there were and are "white" people in the muslim world including NA. Ever meet an Arab? Not the dirt bags you see on the news but an educated upper class arab? Many do in fact look "white". There are plenty of red head and blue/green eyed arabs. Caucasian is about more than skin color, it is based on dentition/bone morphology(particularly the skull) hair growth patterns(beards and chest hair) and believe it or not the vascular system (matter of debate).

dude, don't try to educate a moron who has their mind made up already. most people think African or Arab and they think "dark skinned". truth be told, the upper class Arabs i have met in my travels often have blue eyes! creepy!

but hey, i LOVE the work "indigenous" people do on lawns........good stuff!

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Um, the OP...who the fuck is this guy?!??
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