I learned something about the TPS and idling high about a weekend ago with a customers car. At start up his idle shot to 5800-6000 and came down to 1500-2000. We overlooked everything that was done and we back to the TPS. This time reset the pcm, disconnect the tps, align it proper (no tension) on the TB, bolt it on, plug it in, start the car up and perfect idle.
So there's a few things that can cause your idle to go out of whack. With the TPS its TPS harness damaged or TPS not properly aligned. In which I learned something new last weekend.
This may not be the problem those guys were experiencing but its sure seems like its within the same boat.
I think 70mm may be an overkill but that all depends on what ALL you have planned for the car...
dude, you know what i have planned for the car.
brandon gave me some great tips on friday night on msn for my car as well. if i remember corrctly, he suggested 60mm. his car drove great. got on it in second gear, no torque steer . going to def get a set of those traction bars and h brace
dude, you know what i have planned for the car.
brandon gave me some great tips on friday night on msn for my car as well. if i remember corrctly, he suggested 60mm. his car drove great. got on it in second gear, no torque steer . going to def get a set of those traction bars and h brace
I know I know... but I only know so much since your gathering more plans
I know I know... but I only know so much since your gathering more plans
well, the platform is locked in stone. now i'm just figuring out options for that platform. who is going to do the porting? what size wheel? so on and so forth, still want to hear what dan recomends since he said he would steer me in the right direction.
just dont want it all public even though alot of you guys know what i'm gonna do anyways.
Just make sure whoever you decide to go with your not months upon months waiting for your parts. This will further delay your project. I would try to avoid that as much as possible.
Just make sure whoever you decide to go with your not months upon months waiting for your parts. This will further delay your project. I would try to avoid that as much as possible.
well, the person brandon recomended, brandon only had to wait 5 days for everything. thats good turn around time. i have a pm into that vendor right now. just waiting for a response
anybody have any opinions/experience with boomba throttle body's?
the 70mm one? Idk much about boomba, but I wouldn't get an aftermarket tb unless you are totally ok with dealing with the leaks for that extra couple hp, otherwise I'd get a ported stocker. I learned that after I bought my kinetic 60mm
Brian I forgot where yours is leaking from... do you recall? Another friend of mine I think has your same TB and we figuered out his leak is coming from the TPS, the o-ring is not sealing or has just worn out. Were going to get another o-ring and see if it cures the problem. If so his TB will have zero leaks. I think its just tackling the minor things to help these TB's seal correctly. But then again I don't recall where your leak is coming from... I do know its leaking.
I can't pinpoint exactly where it is, you'd have to ask dan. But if I had to take a guess I'd say you're 100% right on. That o-ring was part of the leak fix that aaronneon posted about for these tb's. The only thing I've done to modify the tb was change the idle screw and cut the spring a bit so that it would clear the tranny b/c that was hitting it and also preventing anything else from lining up. If that fixes his problem let me know, i'll go out and get one, I just haven't been thinking recently, I'm so pissed about my dtec evena fter trying to fix it yetserday that I haven't put any thought into the tb, but let me know
I do think the 70mm is a bit overkill for your plans. The ported stocker will do fine. a 60mm aftermarket willl do better and a 70 mm will do even better probably but at a cost of price and possible headaches. I've heard a lot of "after putting the tb in I felt an extra 10whp!" but have yet to experience or see that for myself, so I think that extra money is best directed somewhere else especially in the situation you are in with the motor and all. IMO the 70mm is better for someone who is flowing tons of air (big turbo) and needs all the help in preventing bottleneck restrictions that he can. Also J-srt4 If I remember correctly had the kinetic 60mm tb with his setup, so you could shoot him a pm if you want. Keep in mind this is my opinion. Also as far as the porting. Remember that the mindset "whoever ports the biggest hole wins" doesn't always mean its the best product, not saying you are like that but there are plenty of people who think the biggest/shiniest is the best. So keep that in mind when you're looking for someone to port.
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Just make sure whoever you decide to go with your not months upon months waiting for your parts. This will further delay your project. I would try to avoid that as much as possible.
well, the person brandon recomended, brandon only had to wait 5 days for everything. thats good turn around time. i have a pm into that vendor right now. just waiting for a response
What vendor was this? You can reply here or send me a pm.
Only one I see having quick turn arounds with anything is DCR and a couple other vendors.
I can't pinpoint exactly where it is, you'd have to ask dan. But if I had to take a guess I'd say you're 100% right on. That o-ring was part of the leak fix that aaronneon posted about for these tb's. The only thing I've done to modify the tb was change the idle screw and cut the spring a bit so that it would clear the tranny b/c that was hitting it and also preventing anything else from lining up. If that fixes his problem let me know, i'll go out and get one, I just haven't been thinking recently, I'm so pissed about my dtec evena fter trying to fix it yetserday that I haven't put any thought into the tb, but let me know
I will let you know. Didn't even read or know aaronneon posted some information on this. This was something I concluded when I ran a boost leak test on one. First time I didn't want to mess with it at all. For his second boost leak test he asked if I would look into it. So I took the TPS off, cleaned out and junk that was in it and that's how I concluded its the o-ring not properly sealing. I will let you know how it goes. I may have to buy a few of these o-rings and keep them in stock.
If the Dtec keeps giving you problems I say just get rid of it and go with a SAFC. Apexi is proven, failure ratings are slim. Dtec's as much as I love the tuning points and the adjustability I wouldn't be able to take its failure numbers. I see it as not worth the headache... especially for a device that TurboXS should have corrected the problems by now instead of sending people buffer boards when they fail. They should replace the whole unit.
I can't pinpoint exactly where it is, you'd have to ask dan. But if I had to take a guess I'd say you're 100% right on. That o-ring was part of the leak fix that aaronneon posted about for these tb's. The only thing I've done to modify the tb was change the idle screw and cut the spring a bit so that it would clear the tranny b/c that was hitting it and also preventing anything else from lining up. If that fixes his problem let me know, i'll go out and get one, I just haven't been thinking recently, I'm so pissed about my dtec evena fter trying to fix it yetserday that I haven't put any thought into the tb, but let me know
I will let you know. Didn't even read or know aaronneon posted some information on this. This was something I concluded when I ran a boost leak test on one. First time I didn't want to mess with it at all. For his second boost leak test he asked if I would look into it. So I took the TPS off, cleaned out and junk that was in it and that's how I concluded its the o-ring not properly sealing. I will let you know how it goes. I may have to buy a few of these o-rings and keep them in stock.
If the Dtec keeps giving you problems I say just get rid of it and go with a SAFC. Apexi is proven, failure ratings are slim. Dtec's as much as I love the tuning points and the adjustability I wouldn't be able to take its failure numbers. I see it as not worth the headache... especially for a device that TurboXS should have corrected the problems by now instead of sending people buffer boards when they fail. They should replace the whole unit.
Yeah, now that I think about it, I thought i bought an o-ring and asked dan what he thought. We might have put one in, one could have not fit and we didn't put it in, or I could be on crack. Who knows.
Yeah, I'm considering giving the dtec one more chance and that buffer board is such a simple install but with wiring being so weak and me not know wtf I'm doing on my DD, I'd rather not go for it. I also thought about the SAFC, for a few reasons. 1 because I'm not going sst/e1 anymore so I don't need to squeeze every last hp out. staying PCM controlled is a thought, but my main concern is I can't use my wideband anymore or my bc, So I'm trading 3 things away to get 1 and with them all being used, god knows how much money I might lose trying to make all that up especially with the financial issues I'm in right now, plus I have to address the other issues on the car.
You probably mentioned it but I probably missed it, are you waiting until all this is done to get it running and start driving it again or how is that going to work out. pm returned again btw
You probably mentioned it but I probably missed it, are you waiting until all this is done to get it running and start driving it again or how is that going to work out. pm returned again btw
oh know, all this is going to be in like feb or march. car will have the new motor in it by this time next month. only part of all that i told you about might be the clutch and flywheel
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. going to def get a set of those traction bars and h brace
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