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Old 09-09-2005, 11:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would. That is wrong and the guy will never get his just rewards. However, you're going to have to be the one who escorts him to jail, so what I think isn't nearly as pertinent, as unfortunate as it is. Your uncle's story is terrible, and unfortunately not uncommon, which is even worse. A changing culture is at the root of the increased incidence of drunk-driving accidents, but it's what's going to happen. I realize that you, and every family member of that family would want that guy dead, but killing him wouldn't make it any better; it would only make you a martyr.

The undoing of the country is starting to show, things like this are just the biproduct. Reduced education programs and greater drug useage [crack babies are doomed from the start because of their mothers' habits] are making more and more crime a certainty. It's a sad day, case in point, New Orleans. It really is a pity.
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Old 09-10-2005, 01:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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what is this world coming to seriously...
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:05 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by moltenice
rodney was just passive aggressive, he just didnt stop for the cops... He didnt DO anything really horrible.

I'm not joking...... i wish there was marshall law throughout the country, too many stupid people i would like to remove from this planet.

you dont know what rodney king did do you?

you dont know his past criminal history do you?

you dont know what drugs he was on do you?

because i know some of it and i think that they did the right thing. thier life is on the line. they didnt shoot him they just beat him like no other.

so you want to be judge jury and right there on the side of the road?

id take you out because you talk out of your ass
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Quote: Originally Posted by sigma pi
you dont know what rodney king did do you?

you dont know his past criminal history do you?

you dont know what drugs he was on do you?

because i know some of it and i think that they did the right thing. thier life is on the line. they didnt shoot him they just beat him like no other.

so you want to be judge jury and right there on the side of the road?

id take you out because you talk out of your ass

Actually, i know his arrest record, i know what happened that night as well, I was just at a CHP meeting where they discussed it all in detail.

You say you dont believe in "judge, jury and ", but agree with what they did? Idiot .

take me out? ... Good luck on that.

I'd make the rodney king incident look PG......
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:46 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Rodney King's criminal history played a large role in the high-speed chase that led to his arrest, in his controversial and violent arrest, and in the trials that followed. King explained his decision to flee--at a speed exceeding 110 mph--from CHP officers as resulting from a fear that his arrest for speeding would lead to a revocation of his parole and a return to prison: "I was scared of going back to prison and I just kind of thought the problem would just go away." Sergeant Stacey Koon, the supervising officer at King's arrest, concluded (correctly, it turned out) from King's "buffed out appearance" that he was most likely an ex-con who had been working out on prison weights--and assumed therefore that he was a dangerous character. Finally, it was King's criminal history that explained the decision of prosecutors to keep him off the witness stand. If King testified, defense attorneys would be allowed to present the jury with his record of arrests--a record that might influence their deliberations.
Many of King's problems with the law stem from his serious drinking problem. According to his parole officer, Tim Fowler, King "was a basically decent guy with borderline intelligence....His problem was alcoholism." (Cannon, p40.)

King's Trouble with the Law Prior to His Beating

July 27, 1987: According to a complaint filed by his wife, King beat her while she was sleeping, then dragged her outside the house and beat her again. King was charged with battery and pleaded "no contest." He was placed on probation and ordered to obtain counseling. He never got the counseling.
November 3, 1989: King, brandishing a tire iron, ordered a convenience store clerk to empty the cash register. The clerk grabbed the tire iron, causing King to fall backwards and knock over a pie rack. King swung the rack at the clerk and fled the store with $200. King was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon, second-degree robbery, and intent to commit great bodily injury. In a plea agreement, King pleaded guilty to the robbery charge and the other charges were dropped. He was sentenced to two years in prison, but was paroled on December 27, 1990.


The Arrest of Rodney King on March 3, 1991
March 3, 1991: After being seen speeding on the 210 freeway by CHP officers, King led them on a chase at speeds estimated at up to 110 to 115 mph. When finally stopped, King refused requests to get into the prone position and appeared to charge one of the officers. He was beaten and arrested. King was charged with felony evading. Charges were later dropped.
King's 3/3/91 Arrest Record

King's Trouble with the Law After March 3, 1991
May 11, 1991: King was pulled over for having an excessively tinted windshield. Although King was driving without a license and his car registration had expired, King was not charged.
May 28, 1991: King picked up a transvestite prostitute in Hollywood who happened to be under surveillance by LAPD officers. King and the prostitute were observed in an alley engaging in sexual activity. When the prostitute spotted the officers, King sped away, nearly hitting one of them. King later explained that he thought the vice officers were robbers trying to kill him. No charges were filed.

June 26, 1992: King's second wife reported to police that King had hit her and she feared for her life. King was handcuffed and taken to a police station, but his wife then decided against pressing charges.

July 16, 1992: King was arrested at 1:40 A.M. for driving while intoxicated. No charges were filed.

August 21, 1993: King crashed into a wall near a downtown Los Angeles nightclub. He had a blood alcohol level of 0.19. King was charged with violating his parole and sent for sixty day to an alcohol treatment center. He was also convicted on the DUI charge and ordered to perform twenty days of community service.

May 21, 1995: King was arrested for DUI while on a trip to Pennsylvania. King failed field sobriety tests, but refused to submit to a blood test. He was tried and acquitted.

July 14, 1995: King got into an argument with his wife while he was driving, pulled off the freeway and ordered her out of the car. When she started to get out, King sped off, leaving her on the highway with a bruised arm. King was charged with assault with a deadly weapon (his car), reckless driving, spousal abuse, and hit-and-run. King was tried on all four charges, but found guilty only of hit-and-run driving.

March 3, 1999: King allegedly injured the sixteen-year-old girl that he had fathered out of wedlock when he was seventeen, as well as the girl's mother. King was arrested for injuring the woman, the girl, and for vandalizing property. King claimed that the incident was simply "a family misunderstanding."

September 29, 2001: King was arrested for indecent exposure and use of the hallucinogenic drug PCP.
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Also, i know that i would never be able to do anything unless it was by the book. After reading stories like that salsemen getting killed for no reason and drunk drivers killing families, i get pretty pissed off, and anyone with a conscience would as well.
Police officers are under a pretty big spotlight, so you have to let the system handle them no matter how bad you want to yourself.
I am sure the defense lawyers would have a field day with your career the second someone mentioned wrongful doing.

thats just FYI so that everyone doesnt think i want to be a cop so i can be rambo....
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so what if you grind some dudes face in and he is scarred for life, then you find out later that the guy was innocent or maybe there was an underlying story behind the crime that forced the guy to kill the salesman?(i doubt it though)

shit, even the drunk driver doesnt deserve to get shot, its not like he planned to kill a family that night.
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:34 PM   #23 (permalink)
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not literally....... it was a way of saying i'd be more aggressive in the arrest. You can see it on COPS as well. If they get pissed and have to chase someone down, notice how they handle the arrest. It's usally 10 cops on one guy and everyone of them has a knee somewhere while the guy is screaming......

I am going to have to disagree with you on the drunk driver not needing to be shot theory.
If you drink and drive, you're a POS. If you injure someone in the process, you have no need to be a part of society anymore, and i would rather not waste tax dollars for jail time. Everytime you get behind the wheel of a car after you have consumed alcohol, you are taking a huge risk.

I would dare you to say that he didnt "plan" on killing the family to anyone that had a family member killed by a drunk driver.
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Let his wife and child throw the swith on him.
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