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[srtmike04]

i have the dtec but have heard about problems with both. dtec or safc2 and why. thanks

[DRASTIC.]

dtec - 4 maps
safc - 2maps

dtec - 18adjustable points in 100% column
safc - 12 total, but about 10 total for WOT (after you set 2 points for idle/cruising

dtec - can datalog if setup properly, and record afr by rpms
safc - cant

dtec - color, and can remove the gameboy w/o losing the setings
safc - black/white (the black case w/ the white leds do look awesome tho), and cant remove

dtec - cheap wiring harness
safc - better quality

dtec - known for "bad brains" and would need to be sent to turboxs to get fixed
safc - not the case

dtec - more "closed loop" points that you can tune (18x3, and 18 points for WOT)

dtec - no tach
safc - tach needed (not a big deal really)


dtec beats the safc in every category pretty much.

i had the dtec. wiring fell apart (w/o even touching it for 2yrs). i ripped it out. sold it for $100. supposedly the guy that bought it fixed it, but had OTHER issues w/ it, and got rid of it.

i just bought a safc2 in black. i personally think it looks sick. it doesnt have all the neat features, but those features arent needed to make a great tune...just helps for those that need to datalog. and the wiring/quality is better.

either 1 is going to do the job.

[srtmike04]

Quote: Originally Posted by DRASTIC.

dtec - 4 maps
safc - 2maps

dtec - 18adjustable points in 100% column
safc - 12 total, but about 10 total for WOT (after you set 2 points for idle/cruising

dtec - can datalog if setup properly, and record afr by rpms
safc - cant

dtec - color, and can remove the gameboy w/o losing the setings
safc - black/white (the black case w/ the white leds do look awesome tho), and cant remove

dtec - cheap wiring harness
safc - better quality

dtec - known for "bad brains" and would need to be sent to turboxs to get fixed
safc - not the case

dtec - more "closed loop" points that you can tune (18x3, and 18 points for WOT)

dtec - no tach
safc - tach needed (not a big deal really)


dtec beats the safc in every category pretty much.

i had the dtec. wiring fell apart (w/o even touching it for 2yrs). i ripped it out. sold it for $100. supposedly the guy that bought it fixed it, but had OTHER issues w/ it, and got rid of it.

i just bought a safc2 in black. i personally think it looks sick. it doesnt have all the neat features, but those features arent needed to make a great tune...just helps for those that need to datalog. and the wiring/quality is better.

either 1 is going to do the job.

thanks man.... i was thinkin about tradin the dtec. safc is easier to tune and i dont really need analog.

thanks again

[lopez]

the neo is nice also, same as the safcII just color screen with analog or digital views of what you are monitoring. You can even mix and match the views. I like it and it fits perfectly between the dash and the top of the hvac.

[mole']

+1 for the SAFC 2

[DRASTIC.]

word.

[mole']

plus SAFC is super easy to tune.........

W/B and a scan gauge and your set.........

[srtmike04]

Quote: Originally Posted by mole'

plus SAFC is super easy to tune.........

W/B and a scan gauge and your set.........

thats one of the main reasons i want the safc. mopar4srt, chris, is a good friend and after seeing the way his car ran on it and finding out how easy it was to tune it seems like the better of the two. i know the dtec has better features or what not. but sometimes more also comes with more problems.

thanks guys