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Old 04-21-2008, 03:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Callout: Corvette Dan Vs FTP John

History: Dan raced John (Driving Tonys Mustang), and he says he won, John says he won, however John also said Tonys car was off the bottle, so long dispute both of them want to run again, complications so they don't. Now Dan feels he has a point to prove, and wants to run Johns SRT-4.

Well, was hanging out with Ant, and Dan and the challenge has been made. Initially Dan challenged Tony @ FTP, but Tony wanted a Dig and the Dan can't do that. However Dan wants to race John from a roll, and see the outcome.

So, Dan is calling out John@FTP, this Tuesday from a roll.



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Old 04-21-2008, 03:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Fucking gay...


So.. If you can't make your shit hook "lets go race from a roll"

Why not set the corvette out some space?

Well...


I guess I would be imbarassed to ask for space from a srt4 if I couldn't make my shit hook
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The corvette would go from a dig. But would prefer not too... Only tires he's got are the stock run flats, and with the power he's putting down.... he'd be lucky to catch traction from an 80mph roll.... let along a dig.

I guess he can do a dig.... street tire to street tire. But I doubt the srt would wanna do that.

Beside.... he's not trying to see whose the better driver... (the Vette's an automatic thats getting built and stalled this week.... so if he did buy slicks for his car and challenged the SRT from a dig.... it wouldn't even be right.) he wants to see whose got the faster car. Roll racing usually takes away all the bs... and lets the car speak from themselves.
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The corvette would go from a dig. But would prefer not too... Only tires he's got are the stock run flats, and with the power he's putting down.... he'd be lucky to catch traction from an 80mph roll.... let along a dig.

You know, when you bring a knife to a gun fight....

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I guess he can do a dig.... street tire to street tire. But I doubt the srt would wanna do that.

I'll bring my D.O.T. legal street tires to his D.O.T. street tires any day.. 8 cylinder to 8 cylinder..

And your right.. Why not let the SRT run his slicks against the corvettes whatever? Learn to drive that car and it shoud'nt be an issue. Its not like Johns car is going to leave hard..

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Beside.... he's not trying to see whose the better driver... (the Vette's an automatic thats getting built and stalled this week.... so if he did buy slicks for his car and challenged the SRT from a dig....

Why did he piss himself and hide from the mustang? Or my Falcon?

It seems like the big kid is picking on the little ones with this whole deal..

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it wouldn't even be right.) he wants to see whose got the faster car. Roll racing usually takes away all the bs... and lets the car speak from themselves.

Takes all the BS away?? How in the fuck did you come to that conclusion?

I somewhat can understand how everyone seems to like 'racing from a roll' shit, but it proves nothing.

It would be like, " Hey john, lets go race my z06 and your SRT4 up big bear mountain and see who gets there first"

Johns shit is set up for 1/4 mile

The z06 isn't, obviously, and wants a race that caters more to him, not "Roll racing usually takes away all the bs... and lets the car speak from themselves"

Why not race Johns street bike from a roll? or up a hill? or somthing that makes it more bennificial to John? Because that is gay..


It just seems like no one likes to gamble any more...
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You know, when you bring a knife to a gun fight....

What does that mean? If anything, the dig race is gonna cater more to the Automatic, stalled, built drivetrain corvette... So if anyone's wielding the knife in a Dig race.... its John.


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I'll bring my D.O.T. legal street tires to his D.O.T. street tires any day.. 8 cylinder to 8 cylinder..

Ok, I guess, he can run your car after... but don't expect any money races...

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And your right.. Why not let the SRT run his slicks against the corvettes whatever? Learn to drive that car and it shouldn't be an issue. Its not like Johns car is going to leave hard..

Dude, are you serious.... The Stock run flats don't hold grip on stock power let alone anything else. No matter how much of a Good driver you claim to be... putting out 500+whp on stock tires... in an Automatic... isn't gonna work out.

And I can't believe you would even suggest a Slick down HP66 SRT4 to race a stock tire, High HP, IRS, Automatic, Corvette from a dig.... Thats just stupid. We all wanna see an equal, good race, but you must be a John nut swinger that wants to see something highly favoring him.


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Why did he piss himself and hide from the mustang? Or my Falcon?

Actually he does wanna race the mustang too, but he's gotta wait till he gets some slick to even make that race worth while... Unless tony will do a roll, but we know thats not happening now since he got the new 3 speed auto in.

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It seems like the big kid is picking on the little ones with this whole deal..

Doesn't really consider an HP66 turbo in an SRT4 a little one.....

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Takes all the BS away?? How in the fuck did you come to that conclusion?

Meaning the.... "I fucked up my launch!", "I was spinning,", "I didn't heat up my tires right", "You got the better lane.", "Well, if I had traction I would smoke you", "Well your cars a built auto so you got off the line better", "Well your on slick to my stock tires", All that possible BS.

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I somewhat can understand how everyone seems to like 'racing from a roll' shit, but it proves nothing.

It would be like, " Hey john, lets go race my z06 and your SRT4 up big bear mountain and see who gets there first"

Its not a Z06.... its a regular corvette.... Z06 don't come in automatic.... And yes roll races can prove a bit actually. They actually show more about the cars power/weight ratio than dig races do because dig races heavily involve the Driver... meaning driver error would factor heavily into the results... Leading to the possibility of the BS stated above.

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Johns shit is set up for 1/4 mile

The z06 isn't, obviously, and wants a race that caters more to him, not "Roll racing usually takes away all the bs... and lets the car speak from themselves"

Are you serious... And how is John's car setup for a 1/4 mile.... what because he has a 2 step and slicks now, its only a 1/4 mile car. Don't give me that bull. He raced Jason from a roll like 3weeks to a month ago. And its not like he's running a 3 speed powerglide, with stall and gearing that doesn't allow racing from a roll. He's running stock SRT4 gearing that are totally beneficial to roll racing... If anything, the Roll race caters to the SRT more because the Vette's automatic trans would have to kick down before it actually started to go. That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say that an Roll race caters to a Built auto, over a stock 5 speed..... Shit ask tony what he thinks about roll racing in his built auto......

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Why not race Johns street bike from a roll? or up a hill? or somthing that makes it more bennificial to John? Because that is gay..

Actually, what type of bike does John have? We might be able to get something worked out if its a 600...

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Old 04-21-2008, 02:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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What does that mean? If anything, the dig race is gonna cater more to the Automatic, stalled, built drivetrain corvette... So if anyone's wielding the knife in a Dig race.... its John.

Okay.. So why are they racing? to prove Chevrolet is better? A race should be about two guys (girls) on a desolate road/track proving who the better driver, or tuner, or builder is.. Bottom line.

But thats me.

Go indanger your self on a freeway racing at a 100mph+ to "let the cars prove themselves"




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Ok, I guess, he can run your car after... but don't expect any money races...

But I'll get bitching, punking out, and pretty much crying, right?





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Dude, are you serious.... The Stock run flats don't hold grip on stock power let alone anything else. No matter how much of a Good driver you claim to be... putting out 500+whp on stock tires... in an Automatic... isn't gonna work out.

Yes, 100% serious.. Why hasn't speed racer purchased a set of wheels and tires to accomadate his hobby? Not to be a dick, but I would immagine some one sells a drag radial for that car... I know personally of a few cars in the HP range that work just fine on a drag radial.. And again, a lot of it is in the driver..


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Actually he does wanna race the mustang too, but he's gotta wait till he gets some slick to even make that race worth while... Unless tony will do a roll, but we know thats not happening now since he got the new 3 speed auto in.

Okay...



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Doesn't really consider 400whp in an SRT4 a little kid.....

okay, I'll agree with that, but a car with 100% more design from the factory to do just that, race on the open road, handle, brake etc, to a car that was more or less designed to drag race and fuck around a little on the open road...



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Meaning the.... "I fucked up my launch!", "I was spinning,", "I didn't heat up my tires right", "You got the better lane.", "Well, if I had traction I would smoke you", "Well your cars a built auto so you got off the line better", "Well your on slick to my stock tires", All that possible BS.

And that is part of drag racing. Maybe, shoud've, could've.. Bottom line is that all that is gambling, the faster car doesn't always win..



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Its not a Z06.... its a regular corvette.... Z06 don't come in automatic....

Okay, my bad. So its an automatic.. settle down..

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And yes roll races can prove a bit actually. They actually show more about the cars power/weight ratio than dig races do because dig races heavily involve the Driver... meaning driver error would factor heavily into the results... Leading to the possibility of the BS stated above.

that has to be the funniest shit I have read on any board in quite some time..

isn't that what 'racing' is about.. Driving?

Maybe I'll just never understand this "roll racing" shit. I'm really trying to understand your points and not be ignorant.. I'm just a drag racer.. Two cars, two people, on one side, all the time, talent and hard work..

The other side, same thing..

From a drop of a flag, light, hands - They find out who worked harder - so to speak.. To me, thats drag racing..



[quote=Savior1974;6053052]Are you serious... And how is John's car setup for a 1/4 mile.... what because he has a 2 step and slicks now, its only a 1/4 mile car.[/qutoe]

Dont go putting words into my mouth..

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Don't give me that bull. He raced Jason from a roll like 3weeks to a month ago. And its not like he's running a 3 speed powerglide,

no such thing
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with stall and gearing that doesn't allow racing from a roll. He's running stock SRT4 gearing that are totally beneficial to roll racing...

fair enough..
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If anything, the Roll race caters to the SRT more because the Vette's automatic trans would have to kick down before it actually started to go.

It might cater to it, but this is a race of pure horse power, nothing else..
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That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say that an Roll race caters to a Built auto, over a stock 5 speed

I would immagine that an auto would be a better deal to people who want "their cars to do the talking" and not the drivers.. Just push your foot down and steer... Hell, no shifting, any idiot could race from a roll.

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..... Shit ask tony what he thinks about roll racing in his built auto......

Probally doesn't like it, since it has a little bit of gear, stall, 3 speeds with the final being 1:1 with no overdrive..



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Actually, what type of bike does John have? We might be able to get something worked out if its a 600...

But you won't touch it if its bigger..


Just sounds like "if I don't like it, I dont' want a piece of it" theology..
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falcon just got pwnd by savior.

fuckin whining hoe. gtfo this thread and let john and dan speak for themselves.
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Wow..... I didn't intend for all this....

Its was just supposed to be a friendly GRUDGE match.

Falcon, I don't know how long you have been in the SRT scene, but thats all most SRTs want to do is, "Roll Racing". Thats why it wasn't even being disputed.

The Corvette owner, hasn't done a dig race ever this he lost his Camaro street racing, also he doesn't have DR, or slicks.

Johns car is NOT a 1/4 monster, that thing should be a freeway beast, which is why it should be a good run. Which we all want to see in the spirit of racing.

This is not about, "Living life 1/4 mile at a time", its about two people disagreeing outcome in one race, and now they are trying to settle something.

Plain and Simple, and all in good fun.
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Enough Girls Ill stomp both of you out. J/K buddys. Ill run Dan with my Bike or Car!
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Enough Girls Ill stomp both of you out. J/K buddys. Ill run Dan with my Bike or Car!

Hey John, did you want to do it on Tuesday?
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