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Old 04-24-2004, 01:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Attn AEMTech Regarding Fitment of Cold Air Intake

AEMTech- http://srtforums.com/forums/showpost...4&postcount=68 Please read and consider. The design needs a bit of work. Good idea, but not the best execution. I'm sure many have managed to get it installed without problems but there are many of us that are having problems. It has some issues that shouldn't be that hard to iron out and make this an easy and trouble-free install for everyone. I have suggested a few refinements for the design that I think will fix the problems for everyone.
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Old 04-24-2004, 02:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have spent about 3 hours trying to get this thing not to rub the hood. I have left every clamp loose and tried to make more room.

My problem area seems to be in the same location as helotaxi's, right above the coupling in front of the battery is where the intake rubs. I don't have a dent or anything that bad but it does rub the hood. I thought about taking some of the rubber with the sticky stuff that was supplied with the kit and putting it on the intake, but that would look like crap and it would not solve the problem.

I don't have a problem with the brake vacuum hose. It looks like that might be different from car to car (depending on how it was installed). It wouldn't hurt though to state something in the instructions pointing out that this hose might be in the way.

I agree with helotaxi about the connection to the battery tray. It seem like I'm forcing it onto the rubber connector.

I also agree with helotaxi on the issue with the valve cover breather connection location. I think it should be moved closer to the front of the intake (front of car). It defiantly should be moved. I would like to install a catch can for the line, since I do get oil in the intake, but it is difficult to get two lines in the current area.

As far as the coupling in front of the battery, it wouldn’t hurt to make it a little longer. Even though I have hade the intake on for three days now and it has not come apart.

I have talked to someone at AEM prior to getting the intake. I was assured that if I follow the instructions the intake would fit fine. I did follow the instructions and I still have black paint on the intake.

Now for the good points; I'm glad you provided a splash shield for the filter. I feel the car has more pull in the higher RPM (Very Important). I haven't had it dyno tested yet but I feel confident that I will not be disappointed when I do. Finally, I love the red color.

I was also informed by the person at AEM that I will get better gains out of the intake when I go to the staged upgrades from mopar. Stage 2 should be here in about two weeks.

I am rather upset that the intake rubs that hood, so I would appreciate comments from AEM.

Thank you and have a good day.
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i dont know what is wrong with your guys set up. but AEM insalled my intake and the cas that is shown in the thread for the updat and i have had zero problems with it. i will agree with you on relocating the breather line... but as far as rubbing on the hood or any factory istalled parts i have had no problems. and i will assure you that ben/AEMTECH is very anal for lack of a better word on everything that he produces.

for example we installed the AEM intake on my friends evo8 and we thought that there was a problem with fittment. truth be known the install though perfect in our minds was slightly off. lossen a few hose clamps and re-adjust the set-up and viola a perfect fit.. therin may lie the problem AEM products may infact be to precise and when not properly installed may appear to be faulty..

my suggestion to you guys would be to either go to AEM if you are close enough or to take pictures of the problem areas and give them to AEMTECH for him to find out what the problem is..

either way good luck with the install of your AEM products.

damn i sound like an ass kisser..
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With every intake system there are many ways for adjustment. Although many people haven't had any issues with fitment, we are definately looking into this matter for the best solution.
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Installing a CAI is not the most difficult thing in the world. I saw 2 cars last night that were having this problem.

It appeard that the intake was just sitting higher than it should, and the intake like that goes to the Valve cover was perfectly straight. I am assuming that when installed correctly the intake line on the intake should be lower than the valve cover line.

I have yet to get an intake but I am going AEM. I would like to know the resolution to this so it does'nt get jacked under my hood.
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Quote: Originally Posted by chubz
Installing a CAI is not the most difficult thing in the world. I saw 2 cars last night that were having this problem.

It appeard that the intake was just sitting higher than it should, and the intake like that goes to the Valve cover was perfectly straight. I am assuming that when installed correctly the intake line on the intake should be lower than the valve cover line.

I have yet to get an intake but I am going AEM. I would like to know the resolution to this so it does'nt get jacked under my hood.


Hello! You cant get it "lower than the valve cover" because there is a hard line there as well. Sure you can re-route the large vacuume line that runs to the brake booster but the hard line to the turbo is still in the way. It just did not need the upward bend right there in the left hand corner as your looking at the battery from the front of the car. If it went parallel and then turned it would be magic. Also the rubber screw mount may solve the problem if it were a 1/4 to 1/2 inch shorter. The breather tube at the valve cover is surely in need of relocation as it is way to close.
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I have the intake all but sitting on the oil line down the side of the valve cover. I have loosened everything, adjusted, retightened, reloosened, readjusted, retightened, ad nauseum. I have spent the better part of two days trying to get this thing to not rub on my hood. My breather fittin is infact lower than my valve cover and I had to use a piece of the stock breather line to connect it because the supplied hose was too stiff and kept pulling the intake pipe up into the hood regardless of what I did with the other fittings. I am not incompetent when it comes to working on cars, this thing just isn't the bolt-on that it should be. I can feel the performance difference and I like it but I don't like the rub mark on the bottom of my hood or the rub mark on the finish of my intake. I have it now where it doesn't rub, but it is without the rubber mount for the bracket and the angle of the bracket has been "massaged" for lack of a better word. Of course the finish on the bracket got marred during the massage but it is behind the pipe and not nearly as noticable as the marks on the pipe itself from the hood.

I will post a pic later when my wife gets home with the digicam, but the spot that is rubbing is the very top of the large bend in the intake, just above the vacuum line fitting. It is rubbing on the very front corner of the pocket in the bottom of the hood for the stock intake tube. It almost seems as if the intake pipe is about 1/2" too long on the end nearest the turbo and has gone past the pocket in the hood it was meant to recess into.
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Did you get a chance to take those pictures?

I thought I had the rubbing resolved. After a couple of days of driving, things must have loosened up and it's rubbing again.

I too am happy with the gains, but this is starting to get under my skin.
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Did you get a chance to take those pictures?

I thought I had the rubbing resolved. After a couple of days of driving, things must have loosened up and it's rubbing again.

I too am happy with the gains, but this is starting to get under my skin.


Hello cal_srt-4 & helotaxi. I sent helotaxi a pretty lengthy pm yesterday and you are going to still have problems. After it loosened up it started to rub your hood to didn't it? I will send the same PM to you.
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Thanks for the PM.

At first, the filter did push against the liner. I wish I could tell you how I stopped that, but by trying to eliminate the hood rubbing, the filter was moved enough to avoid the liner.

I think the problem with the tube rubbing again is the result of the rather standard hose clamps. I would like to think when you are buying one of the more expensive intakes they would send you respectable hose clamps. I went out and bought some nice hose clamps. So we will see if this works. This added another $20 to the intake. Total is $260, and I not sure it will work.

Modern Performance did warn me about the fitting problem. I decided to listen to AEM and other people that hadn't had any problems. I'm beginning to think that was a mistake.

I agree that a shorter rubber connection to the battery tray and relocating the valve cover breather connection would solve a lot of issues.




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If AEM has shorter rubber connectors (for a lack of better terms), is that something you could send to me?
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Here's a tid bit, take the intake off and bend the bracket holding the coolant line to the turbo. the bracket is on the stud of the valve cover. Bend the bracket up and towards theleft side of the engine. That should give enough room to push the intake down.

Another hint is to Undo the battery strap down bolt and loosen the battery, now that it's loosened pull the battery towards the drivers side, as far right as it can go. tighten the bolt again and you're done. This method should give more room between the head and the battery for your intakes.

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Here's a tid bit, take the intake off and bend the bracket holding the coolant line to the turbo. the bracket is on the stud of the valve cover. Bend the bracket up and towards theleft side of the engine. That should give enough room to push the intake down.

Another hint is to Undo the battery strap down bolt and loosen the battery, now that it's loosened pull the battery towards the drivers side, as far right as it can go. tighten the bolt again and you're done. This method should give more room between the head and the battery for your intakes.

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Here's a tid bit, take the intake off and bend the bracket holding the coolant line to the turbo. the bracket is on the stud of the valve cover. Bend the bracket up and towards theleft side of the engine. That should give enough room to push the intake down.

Another hint is to Undo the battery strap down bolt and loosen the battery, now that it's loosened pull the battery towards the drivers side, as far right as it can go. tighten the bolt again and you're done. This method should give more room between the head and the battery for your intakes.

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Nice triple post.

It would appear that I have it to where it won't rub. At least it hasn't rubbed any more today. It has only taken me a week of working on it to get it to this point. That is totally unsatisfactory for a "bolt-on" part. I could understand if I was taking a part made for another car and modding it for the SRT-4, but this was supposedly designed for the SRT-4 as a direct replacement part.
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i took and cut about a 1/4 inch off the side closest to the turbo and a 1/2 inch off the side closest to the coupling on the upper pipe. That solved all my fittment problems. I just think that the upper pipe is to long.
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