World Engine ? - SRT Forums

smoger · 12-12-2005, 11:18 AM

For those that dont know , Dodge has updated the Caliber site with some more stuff...

anyway.. it lists the engine choices as follows..

1.8L I4 DOHC .... 140hp@6400 / 124tq@5500
2.0L I4 DOHC .... 150hp@6400 / 135tq@5200
2.4L I4 DOHC .... 134hp@4000 / 229tq@1750

now, i know its all dependant on the curve,.. but dont those numbers just seem a little strange?

would be great to get some insight from those of you in the know

smoger · 12-12-2005, 11:23 AM

btw for reference the estimated MSRP i got for a decently equipped R/T was just under 23 grand. this includes AWD, leather interior package, removable rear seats, sunroof, refrigerated cooler bin

the r/t seems to be the best deal as it includes all the little things that add up quick..speed control, ABS, etc.

Jagok1 · 12-12-2005, 11:25 AM

Those #'s are weird

Wish I knew more info.

stowaway · 12-12-2005, 11:33 AM

those numbers are meant for the diesel motor.

smoger · 12-12-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by stowaway

those numbers are meant for the diesel motor.

the diesel has a completely different description,.. so not likely that they even put the numbers in the wrong spot..

Quote:

The turbocharged 2.0-liter diesel engine gives export Caliber models performance surpassing its gasoline-engine siblings accompanied by superior fuel economy.

stowaway · 12-12-2005, 11:46 AM

what gas engine has those characteristics though? every diesel does. If I remember right DCx was going to be using VW diesel motors.

VW 2l TDI
HP: 134 @ 4000 rpm
TQ: 247 @ 1900 rpm

http://www.vw.com/models_overview/en...nes_popup.html

Sounds about right for a slightly different tune for DCx use.

smoger · 12-12-2005, 11:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by stowaway

what gas engine has those characteristics though? every diesel does. If I remember right DCx was going to be using VW diesel motors.

VW 2l TDI
HP: 134 @ 4000 rpm
TQ: 247 @ 1900 rpm

http://www.vw.com/models_overview/en...nes_popup.html

Sounds about right for a slightly different tune for DCx use.

yeah im thinking thats a good theory.. makes sense.. esp. seeing the vw numbers.. just weird that theyd make that big a mistake on a site like that

stowaway · 12-12-2005, 11:55 AM

just remembered, hemi and a few others have posted that the 2.4l world engine is 170hp.

Jim Z · 12-12-2005, 11:55 AM

Quote:

the diesel has a completely different description,.. so not likely that they even put the numbers in the wrong spot..

I would bet that's exactly what happened. Those numbers (especially the peak torque at 1750 rpm) are right in line for a diesel. There's no way in hell the 2.4 VVT gas motor only makes 134 hp and peak torque at 1750.

smoger · 12-12-2005, 12:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by stowaway

just remembered, hemi and a few others have posted that the 2.4l world engine is 170hp.

yeah thats what threw me,.. i remembered hearing 170 or 180.. guess we'll have to give it a few days and see if they update the site

stowaway · 12-12-2005, 12:05 PM

Jan. 6th is the official release date I believe. Should have the Caliber up around that point to build and price with the real options and prices. Ordering from dealers shortly thereafter? Going to be a fun winter and spring for new DCx vehicles!

ebbtide · 12-12-2005, 12:07 PM

134/229trq is diesel. 2.4 WE will be ~170hp in non-turbo form.

Santorican · 12-12-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by stowaway

Jan. 6th is the official release date I believe. Should have the Caliber up around that point to build and price with the real options and prices. Ordering from dealers shortly thereafter? Going to be a fun winter and spring for new DCx vehicles!

Well actually they have the pre-production build and price up right now. I did it and you can option the hell out of it and it still be pretty decent. What caught me is that they gas-electric hybrid as and option?

smoger · 12-12-2005, 01:49 PM

i dont think a lot of that stuff is very concrete yet. if you read the fine print dodge is usingg the info they gather from this as a survey. meaning if a lot of people option that hybrid,.. perhaps it will be an option when they release finalized details.

also, deisel is an option, tho its only planned currently for europe.. maybe if enough americans were to take it...

stowaway · 12-12-2005, 02:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Santorican

Well actually they have the pre-production build and price up right now. I did it and you can option the hell out of it and it still be pretty decent. What caught me is that they gas-electric hybrid as and option?

I know, I've priced out a few different options. Some of the pricing is low for a given option, the paint colors don't have official names yet, a few other things that aren't finalized. What I meant was the final initial offerings would be available around that point, with other options like the diesel (needs to meet upcoming US emissions standards) and hybrid coming when the market demand is right.