The Next SRT-4? Dodge Dart - Page 81 - SRT Forums

Slammed0 · 02-12-2013, 05:25 PM

Hmmm. The SRT Core. Interesting.

**glhs837** · 02-13-2013, 11:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by enginjoe

SRT ‘Core’ Performance Models, First Look Video: 2013 Chicago Auto Show |

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This is a good start. Now what can be done in the weight reduction arena...

Well, not a whole lot really. Not for the big ones. Barring expensive materials like carbon or aluminum, just not a lot of places you can shave weight without adding cost. Full size cars weigh, its simply a matter of being big.

jay05acr · 02-13-2013, 12:18 PM

I don't Think it's smart to waste the money on a dart Srt... They only sold less than 13,000 2012 darts that's not good AT ALL

I know it wasn't out for the full year

stowaway · 02-13-2013, 01:15 PM

There were 25k darts sold last year, and considering it didn't start production until half-way through the year and even then in very limited quantity that's not horrible. It should have been higher, but it's still tough to sell people a 1.4l engine in a 3200lb car.

enginjoe · 02-13-2013, 01:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by glhs837

Well, not a whole lot really. Not for the big ones. Barring expensive materials like carbon or aluminum, just not a lot of places you can shave weight without adding cost. Full size cars weigh, its simply a matter of being big.

Yeah, I hear ya. It sure would be cool to get a 6.4 hemi chally in the 3600lb range, especially with the unlocked ecu's they have now.

**glhs837** · 02-13-2013, 05:01 PM

Then hope the Barracuda is what we suspect it might be. A real Camaro/Mustang competitor.

Simon.Starkie · 02-13-2013, 08:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by enginjoe

Yeah, I hear ya. It sure would be cool to get a 6.4 hemi chally in the 3600lb range, especially with the unlocked ecu's they have now.

Yes to unlocking the ecu's.

A-Town SRT · 02-14-2013, 05:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by friend088

When will you build the SRT version of the Dodge Dart, as a proper successor to the Neon SRT4?

Ralph Gilles:

We're thinking about it. If it comes from SRT, it has a certain expectation. It can't be a me-too car, which is a compliment. We're very nervous to bring out anything that isn't jaw-dropping. To do jaw-dropping stuff takes time, investment, a bigger team. I'm in no rush; the platform is here to stay. We'll see.

If Ford can build the ST I don't see why SRT can't build the srt4, obviously you want the SRT to perform better and that may be where the problem lies. With current EPA standards, maybe there having a hard time finding the right power train?

**glhs837** · 02-14-2013, 08:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by A-Town SRT

If Ford can build the ST I don't see why SRT can't build the srt4, obviously you want the SRT to perform better and that may be where the problem lies. With current EPA standards, maybe there having a hard time finding the right power train?

Hell, if Mercedes can field a 360hp awd four banger, no reason the SRT guys cant do the same. Or at least a 320hp fwd. Hell, wouldntr be surprised if the Daimler guys didnt walk out the door with all the Stage 3 test data and used that to help develop the CLA45 AMG motor. How many other factory tested (for street usage) fours of that power level have there been?

toasteroven · 02-14-2013, 09:35 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by glhs837

Hell, wouldntr be surprised if the Daimler guys didnt walk out the door with all the Stage 3 test data and used that to help develop the CLA45 AMG motor. How many other factory tested (for street usage) fours of that power level have there been?

I was pondering along the same lines.

Simon.Starkie · 02-23-2013, 01:57 PM

2013 Dodge Dart gets all Moparized

KAZ109 · 02-23-2013, 03:38 PM

Looks bright and slow

suzq044 · 02-23-2013, 07:10 PM

lol.. that's just yet another GT with some Mopar parts (from the GTS prototypes)..

gizmosrt4 · 02-25-2013, 02:30 PM

So what's the latest on this? Sorry, I'm too lazy to read through this whole thread and I didn't want to start a new one and get flamed even more.

I've been searching like crazy on the web and haven't found anything solid as of late?

toasteroven · 02-25-2013, 02:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by gizmosrt4

So what's the latest on this? Sorry, I'm too lazy to read through this whole thread and I didn't want to start a new one and get flamed even more.

I've been searching like crazy on the web and haven't found anything solid as of late?

Absolutely nothing. The R/T has been relabeled to "GT", adding fire to the rumors that the FWD SRT is going to be a slightly subdued "R/T", and there will be a $35k+ AWD SRT Dart.

Dodge right now shows cars no more than 6-months away from their availability, so they're playing their cards close to their chest. A basic SRT-ize cycle on the Dart would have been done by now.

02-12-2013, 05:25 PM	#1201 (permalink)
Slammed0 SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2008 Member Number: 64344 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 1,251	Hmmm. The SRT Core. Interesting. __________________ Injen intake, 3'' TBE, DSP 93 Tune, Fuel Pump Rewire, BFMIC, Granatelli wires, Mopar Rice Plate, 3 bar sensors, Meth injection. Pretty much stock!!

02-13-2013, 11:58 AM	#1202 (permalink)
glhs837 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Feb 2003 Member Number: 215 Location: So. Maryland Posts: 14,797	Quote: Originally Posted by enginjoe SRT ‘Core’ Performance Models, First Look Video: 2013 Chicago Auto Show \| om News This is a good start. Now what can be done in the weight reduction arena... Well, not a whole lot really. Not for the big ones. Barring expensive materials like carbon or aluminum, just not a lot of places you can shave weight without adding cost. Full size cars weigh, its simply a matter of being big. __________________ I used to own one of the first SRT-4s sold, bought it new in Feb 2003, sold it Nov 2006 with 75K and Stage 3. Now I drive a 2006 SRT-8 Charger.

02-13-2013, 12:18 PM	#1203 (permalink)
jay05acr SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Member Number: 37744 Location: Houston Posts: 3,672	I don't Think it's smart to waste the money on a dart Srt... They only sold less than 13,000 2012 darts that's not good AT ALL I know it wasn't out for the full year __________________ Go to wikyd-performance.com for all of your srt4 performance needs. Contact jtm0n3y or wonderer86 for more info http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...-parts-639326/ my for sale thread

02-13-2013, 01:15 PM	#1204 (permalink)
stowaway SRTforums Admin Join Date: Aug 2003 Member Number: 3286 Location: Outer Banks, NC Posts: 40,131	There were 25k darts sold last year, and considering it didn't start production until half-way through the year and even then in very limited quantity that's not horrible. It should have been higher, but it's still tough to sell people a 1.4l engine in a 3200lb car. __________________

02-13-2013, 01:41 PM	#1205 (permalink)
enginjoe SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Member Number: 3797 Location: Tucson Posts: 5,052	Quote: Originally Posted by glhs837 Well, not a whole lot really. Not for the big ones. Barring expensive materials like carbon or aluminum, just not a lot of places you can shave weight without adding cost. Full size cars weigh, its simply a matter of being big. Yeah, I hear ya. It sure would be cool to get a 6.4 hemi chally in the 3600lb range, especially with the unlocked ecu's they have now. __________________ 2003 SRT-4 Silver, AGP GT3076R on E85 DD! Was 478hp/508tq ----> Now ??? 2002 Camaro SS M6, going N/A...

02-13-2013, 05:01 PM	#1206 (permalink)
glhs837 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Feb 2003 Member Number: 215 Location: So. Maryland Posts: 14,797	Then hope the Barracuda is what we suspect it might be. A real Camaro/Mustang competitor. __________________ I used to own one of the first SRT-4s sold, bought it new in Feb 2003, sold it Nov 2006 with 75K and Stage 3. Now I drive a 2006 SRT-8 Charger.

02-13-2013, 08:03 PM	#1207 (permalink)
Simon.Starkie SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1564 Location: . Posts: 2,797	Quote: Originally Posted by enginjoe Yeah, I hear ya. It sure would be cool to get a 6.4 hemi chally in the 3600lb range, especially with the unlocked ecu's they have now. Yes to unlocking the ecu's. __________________ It's all about the dogs!

02-14-2013, 05:18 AM	#1208 (permalink)
A-Town SRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Member Number: 46710 Location: A-Town Posts: 2,199	Quote: Originally Posted by friend088 When will you build the SRT version of the Dodge Dart, as a proper successor to the Neon SRT4? Ralph Gilles: We're thinking about it. If it comes from SRT, it has a certain expectation. It can't be a me-too car, which is a compliment. We're very nervous to bring out anything that isn't jaw-dropping. To do jaw-dropping stuff takes time, investment, a bigger team. I'm in no rush; the platform is here to stay. We'll see. If Ford can build the ST I don't see why SRT can't build the srt4, obviously you want the SRT to perform better and that may be where the problem lies. With current EPA standards, maybe there having a hard time finding the right power train?

02-14-2013, 08:48 AM	#1209 (permalink)
glhs837 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Feb 2003 Member Number: 215 Location: So. Maryland Posts: 14,797	Quote: Originally Posted by A-Town SRT If Ford can build the ST I don't see why SRT can't build the srt4, obviously you want the SRT to perform better and that may be where the problem lies. With current EPA standards, maybe there having a hard time finding the right power train? Hell, if Mercedes can field a 360hp awd four banger, no reason the SRT guys cant do the same. Or at least a 320hp fwd. Hell, wouldntr be surprised if the Daimler guys didnt walk out the door with all the Stage 3 test data and used that to help develop the CLA45 AMG motor. How many other factory tested (for street usage) fours of that power level have there been? __________________ I used to own one of the first SRT-4s sold, bought it new in Feb 2003, sold it Nov 2006 with 75K and Stage 3. Now I drive a 2006 SRT-8 Charger.

02-14-2013, 09:35 AM	#1210 (permalink)
toasteroven SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Member Number: 7373 Location: Up North, eh! Posts: 4,422	Quote: Originally Posted by glhs837 Hell, wouldntr be surprised if the Daimler guys didnt walk out the door with all the Stage 3 test data and used that to help develop the CLA45 AMG motor. How many other factory tested (for street usage) fours of that power level have there been? I was pondering along the same lines. __________________ *"This car is 100% shts and giggles." "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you."** Jeremy Clarkson SRT-4 to SRT8, SRT-4 Production Epitaph, Canadian SRT-4 Registry

02-23-2013, 01:57 PM	#1211 (permalink)
Simon.Starkie SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1564 Location: . Posts: 2,797	Jaw dropping hideous. 2013 Dodge Dart gets all Moparized __________________ It's all about the dogs!

02-23-2013, 03:38 PM	#1212 (permalink)
KAZ109 SRTforums Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Member Number: 25334 Location: CALI Posts: 2,687	Looks bright and slow __________________ C.O.B *A vision without a plan is just a hallucination*

02-23-2013, 07:10 PM	#1213 (permalink)
suzq044 SRTforums Photoshop Expert Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1660 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,270	lol.. that's just yet another GT with some Mopar parts (from the GTS prototypes).. __________________ Won a Dodge Dart. It's MINE nao!

02-25-2013, 02:30 PM	#1214 (permalink)
gizmosrt4 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Member Number: 19845 Location: Texas Posts: 969	So what's the latest on this? Sorry, I'm too lazy to read through this whole thread and I didn't want to start a new one and get flamed even more. I've been searching like crazy on the web and haven't found anything solid as of late? __________________ 05 Silver NSRT4 - Sold 08 Orange CSRT4 - Sold 11 Mercedes GLK 08 Jet Black BMW 335i 6MT

02-25-2013, 02:48 PM	#1215 (permalink)
toasteroven SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Member Number: 7373 Location: Up North, eh! Posts: 4,422	Quote: Originally Posted by gizmosrt4 So what's the latest on this? Sorry, I'm too lazy to read through this whole thread and I didn't want to start a new one and get flamed even more. I've been searching like crazy on the web and haven't found anything solid as of late? Absolutely nothing. The R/T has been relabeled to "GT", adding fire to the rumors that the FWD SRT is going to be a slightly subdued "R/T", and there will be a $35k+ AWD SRT Dart. Dodge right now shows cars no more than 6-months away from their availability, so they're playing their cards close to their chest. A basic SRT-ize cycle on the Dart would have been done by now. __________________ *"This car is 100% shts and giggles." "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you."** Jeremy Clarkson SRT-4 to SRT8, SRT-4 Production Epitaph, Canadian SRT-4 Registry

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