The Next SRT-4? Dodge Dart - Page 4 - SRT Forums

RTShadow · 12-09-2011, 04:36 PM

Everyone needs to remember that it is going to take awhile to get the SRT version (if they decide to build one) of this vehicle out... I certainly don't expect it to be like 2 to 3 years like it took them with the Caliber, but it isn't going to be a couple months after you see the base/RT models.

**Vipercar93** · 12-11-2011, 10:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by RTShadow

Everyone needs to remember that it is going to take awhile to get the SRT version (if they decide to build one) of this vehicle out... I certainly don't expect it to be like 2 to 3 years like it took them with the Caliber, but it isn't going to be a couple months after you see the base/RT models.

I remember reading they were considering an SRT version of the Dart in the next model year, nothing concrete though.

toasteroven · 12-13-2011, 06:32 PM

So... what is a rear wiper control doing on a 4-door sedan?

From http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-...photo-4677830/

RTShadow · 12-13-2011, 06:45 PM

Apparently if you believe the photos, no real speedometer, they went with digital for the speedo in favor of the RPM gauge... interesting.

veritas · 12-13-2011, 08:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by toasteroven

So... what is a rear wiper control doing on a 4-door sedan?

Evos have a rear wiper, and I sure wish my Neon did.

jesus_ralliart · 12-13-2011, 08:58 PM

im just curious as to how this car will actually look and its specs when/if its finally made.

not saying it wont be... but things change alot from concept or paper to what you see at the dealership

ahmed24 · 12-13-2011, 11:07 PM

well some people are forgetting that the interior is actually different in the regular neon and the srt4 in some aspects.. seats, cluster, gauges,etc..

Sneezy · 12-14-2011, 06:03 PM

I asked about the car while buying my charger r/t. The guy at the dealer said they were planning on an awd SRT, just not the first year. He might have been blowing smoke but that would be ill. Also, I have the 8.4 uconnect and it has changed my life! this car will have that as an option!

A-Town SRT · 12-14-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Sneezy

I asked about the car while buying my charger r/t. The guy at the dealer said they were planning on an awd SRT, just not the first year. He might have been blowing smoke but that would be ill. Also, I have the 8.4 uconnect and it has changed my life! this car will have that as an option!

Not going to happen...would be too expensive. It would more than likely be a FWD platform to compete with Ford's Focus ST.

jesus_ralliart · 12-14-2011, 08:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by A-Town SRT

Not going to happen...would be too expensive. It would more than likely be a FWD platform to compete with Ford's Focus ST.

this. and price wise it should def compete.. my brother works at ford and says they will be charging about 30k for the focus st new. If thats true, then that is ridiculous.

When srts came out they were under 20? Acr was 21ish?

Prices have gotten outta hand.

Simon.Starkie · 12-14-2011, 09:45 PM

If they are going to make an SRT-4 version of this car, then I hope they keep it cheap and don't forget that the SRT-4 (both Neon and Caliber) always was foremost an enthusiasts car. Hopefully, they don't bollocks it all up with another proprietary, encrypted PCM that blocks the aftermarket even for data logging let alone tuning. The Mopar Performance "Stage" PCM's were decent on the NSRT, especially the Stage 3 kit. But the MS1 on the Caliber was a bit daft and a real turn-off because of the way it restricted throttle openings when successful tuning exceeded some arbitrary TQ value.

toasteroven · 12-14-2011, 09:49 PM

Dealerships and the salesmen contained within, are 99% of the time, the absolute last people to know anything about the products they sell. Especially one that isn't on the lot yet.

I have a sinking sensation they're going to load the SRT4 up with technology and luxury, and sell it at a stupid price. And then wonder why everyone is buying turbo Velosters.

jesus_ralliart · 12-15-2011, 02:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by toasteroven

Dealerships and the salesmen contained within, are 99% of the time, the absolute last people to know anything about the products they sell. Especially one that isn't on the lot yet.

I have a sinking sensation they're going to load the SRT4 up with technology and luxury, and sell it at a stupid price. And then wonder why everyone is buying turbo Velosters.

my parents love hyundais and brought me a booklet from the dealer thinking id be interested. i also saw the car at the autoshow a couple months ago. looks wise and gizmos wise.... great. power wise

SRT Jeff · 12-15-2011, 04:18 PM

The dart was just a compact car back then it turned into a muscle car after Mr. Norm got ahold of it and showed chrysler that you can put a big block in it.It looks ok it will replace the avenger but the turbo model should be the 2.4 motor with a 6 speed.

suzq044 · 12-15-2011, 09:10 PM

If you look at the spy-pic is has an analog spedo. I'm guessing that the right side might be interchangeable depending on the options you have. That, or the digital speedo is just a read-out of what the analog already shows you. Whichever you prefer. it could also just be the average speed display, not the current speed as everyone is assuming.

And lets not forget power doesn't tell the whole story behind the wheel. Just because it has what you'd call a small number, doesn't mean it won't be fast... if nothing more than how it feels when you DRIVE it.

The Avenger is going bye-bye, btw - the 200 will live on in the next platform. There is rumor of Chrysler getting the 'hatch' version of this car as well, again so there is no overlap between brands.

They're looking to price this thing just above the Fiat500, so I'm guessing.. 15-16k basest model SE, and 25k fully loaded R/T. Not bad considering the Camry and Civic prices. And this thing should out-shine them in other ways too, like the technology department and customisation. 6 wheel choices, 14 interior choices and 12 exterior choices. I'm just gonna guess that the dash lighting is changeable too. Considering this show car will be red, it comes with no surprise that the interior lighting is also red.

www.dart-mouth.com is allpar's page dedicated to the new dart and any new information on it.

The rumor on the AWD SRT comes from this page: [link].
Odds are it'll be FWD. But we'll see. Don't take everything on that thread for gospel though.

12-09-2011, 04:36 PM	#46 (permalink)
RTShadow Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Member Number: 11888 Location: GREAT NAH Posts: 14,016	Everyone needs to remember that it is going to take awhile to get the SRT version (if they decide to build one) of this vehicle out... I certainly don't expect it to be like 2 to 3 years like it took them with the Caliber, but it isn't going to be a couple months after you see the base/RT models. __________________

12-11-2011, 10:53 AM	#47 (permalink)
Vipercar93 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Feb 2005 Member Number: 24404 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,331	Quote: Originally Posted by RTShadow Everyone needs to remember that it is going to take awhile to get the SRT version (if they decide to build one) of this vehicle out... I certainly don't expect it to be like 2 to 3 years like it took them with the Caliber, but it isn't going to be a couple months after you see the base/RT models. I remember reading they were considering an SRT version of the Dart in the next model year, nothing concrete though. __________________ Totally Stock down to the KDW's... Best 1/4 Time 13.771 @ 101.2 MPH 2.113 60ft.

12-13-2011, 06:32 PM	#48 (permalink)
toasteroven SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Member Number: 7373 Location: Up North, eh! Posts: 4,422	So... what is a rear wiper control doing on a 4-door sedan? From http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-...photo-4677830/ __________________ *"This car is 100% shts and giggles." "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you."** Jeremy Clarkson SRT-4 to SRT8, SRT-4 Production Epitaph, Canadian SRT-4 Registry

12-13-2011, 06:45 PM	#49 (permalink)
RTShadow Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Member Number: 11888 Location: GREAT NAH Posts: 14,016	Apparently if you believe the photos, no real speedometer, they went with digital for the speedo in favor of the RPM gauge... interesting. __________________

12-13-2011, 08:21 PM	#50 (permalink)
veritas SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Member Number: 12491 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,160	Quote: Originally Posted by toasteroven So... what is a rear wiper control doing on a 4-door sedan? Evos have a rear wiper, and I sure wish my Neon did. __________________ 1998 Cherokee 2004 SRT-4

12-13-2011, 08:58 PM	#51 (permalink)
jesus_ralliart SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Member Number: 87296 Location: nj Posts: 91	im just curious as to how this car will actually look and its specs when/if its finally made. not saying it wont be... but things change alot from concept or paper to what you see at the dealership

12-13-2011, 11:07 PM	#52 (permalink)
ahmed24 SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Member Number: 77737 Location: New York Posts: 871	well some people are forgetting that the interior is actually different in the regular neon and the srt4 in some aspects.. seats, cluster, gauges,etc..

12-14-2011, 06:03 PM	#53 (permalink)
Sneezy SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 30412 Location: casselerry, Fl Posts: 186	I asked about the car while buying my charger r/t. The guy at the dealer said they were planning on an awd SRT, just not the first year. He might have been blowing smoke but that would be ill. Also, I have the 8.4 uconnect and it has changed my life! this car will have that as an option!

12-14-2011, 08:51 PM	#54 (permalink)
A-Town SRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Member Number: 46710 Location: A-Town Posts: 2,199	Quote: Originally Posted by Sneezy I asked about the car while buying my charger r/t. The guy at the dealer said they were planning on an awd SRT, just not the first year. He might have been blowing smoke but that would be ill. Also, I have the 8.4 uconnect and it has changed my life! this car will have that as an option! Not going to happen...would be too expensive. It would more than likely be a FWD platform to compete with Ford's Focus ST.

12-14-2011, 08:54 PM	#55 (permalink)
jesus_ralliart SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Member Number: 87296 Location: nj Posts: 91	Quote: Originally Posted by A-Town SRT Not going to happen...would be too expensive. It would more than likely be a FWD platform to compete with Ford's Focus ST. this. and price wise it should def compete.. my brother works at ford and says they will be charging about 30k for the focus st new. If thats true, then that is ridiculous. When srts came out they were under 20? Acr was 21ish? Prices have gotten outta hand.

12-14-2011, 09:45 PM	#56 (permalink)
Simon.Starkie SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1564 Location: . Posts: 2,797	If they are going to make an SRT-4 version of this car, then I hope they keep it cheap and don't forget that the SRT-4 (both Neon and Caliber) always was foremost an enthusiasts car. Hopefully, they don't bollocks it all up with another proprietary, encrypted PCM that blocks the aftermarket even for data logging let alone tuning. The Mopar Performance "Stage" PCM's were decent on the NSRT, especially the Stage 3 kit. But the MS1 on the Caliber was a bit daft and a real turn-off because of the way it restricted throttle openings when successful tuning exceeded some arbitrary TQ value. __________________ It's all about the dogs!

12-14-2011, 09:49 PM	#57 (permalink)
toasteroven SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Member Number: 7373 Location: Up North, eh! Posts: 4,422	Dealerships and the salesmen contained within, are 99% of the time, the absolute last people to know anything about the products they sell. Especially one that isn't on the lot yet. I have a sinking sensation they're going to load the SRT4 up with technology and luxury, and sell it at a stupid price. And then wonder why everyone is buying turbo Velosters. __________________ *"This car is 100% shts and giggles." "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you."** Jeremy Clarkson SRT-4 to SRT8, SRT-4 Production Epitaph, Canadian SRT-4 Registry

12-15-2011, 02:46 PM	#58 (permalink)
jesus_ralliart SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Member Number: 87296 Location: nj Posts: 91	Quote: Originally Posted by toasteroven Dealerships and the salesmen contained within, are 99% of the time, the absolute last people to know anything about the products they sell. Especially one that isn't on the lot yet. I have a sinking sensation they're going to load the SRT4 up with technology and luxury, and sell it at a stupid price. And then wonder why everyone is buying turbo Velosters. my parents love hyundais and brought me a booklet from the dealer thinking id be interested. i also saw the car at the autoshow a couple months ago. looks wise and gizmos wise.... great. power wise

12-15-2011, 04:18 PM	#59 (permalink)
SRT Jeff SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Member Number: 36825 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,505	The dart was just a compact car back then it turned into a muscle car after Mr. Norm got ahold of it and showed chrysler that you can put a big block in it.It looks ok it will replace the avenger but the turbo model should be the 2.4 motor with a 6 speed.

12-15-2011, 09:10 PM	#60 (permalink)
suzq044 SRTforums Photoshop Expert Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1660 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,270	If you look at the spy-pic is has an analog spedo. I'm guessing that the right side might be interchangeable depending on the options you have. That, or the digital speedo is just a read-out of what the analog already shows you. Whichever you prefer. it could also just be the average speed display, not the current speed as everyone is assuming. And lets not forget power doesn't tell the whole story behind the wheel. Just because it has what you'd call a small number, doesn't mean it won't be fast... if nothing more than how it feels when you DRIVE it. The Avenger is going bye-bye, btw - the 200 will live on in the next platform. There is rumor of Chrysler getting the 'hatch' version of this car as well, again so there is no overlap between brands. They're looking to price this thing just above the Fiat500, so I'm guessing.. 15-16k basest model SE, and 25k fully loaded R/T. Not bad considering the Camry and Civic prices. And this thing should out-shine them in other ways too, like the technology department and customisation. 6 wheel choices, 14 interior choices and 12 exterior choices. I'm just gonna guess that the dash lighting is changeable too. Considering this show car will be red, it comes with no surprise that the interior lighting is also red. www.dart-mouth.com is allpar's page dedicated to the new dart and any new information on it. The rumor on the AWD SRT comes from this page: [link]. Odds are it'll be FWD. But we'll see. Don't take everything on that thread for gospel though. __________________ Won a Dodge Dart. It's MINE nao! Last edited by suzq044; 12-15-2011 at 09:24 PM.

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