and it's pretty sad that a car that is going to cost you 40k out the door (don't know why everyone says the sti isn't a 40k car, at 36k you will pay about 4k in ttl, so IT IS a 40k car, as is an evo) makes as much power as a 23k ms3 with a cai and less power than a caliber srt4 which costs 23k. And I don't want to hear this b.s. awd, techno computer crap, thats not worth 15k. The last evo rs was 27k and made the same amount of horsepower, except it was faster in every imaginable way. This is exactly how japan fucked up in the 90's, I gurantee the same thing happens again, they are pricing themselves into bmw and porsche territory, somewhere they dont want to be (not to mention slightly used m3's and corvettes). I find it hard to believe alot of people will be buying these once the 135i comes out right in this price range, I gurantee it wins every mag comparo, because bimmer always does.