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Old 11-05-2009, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The future: Spark Plug Lasers

Spark plugs may be replaced with lasers

By Wayne Cunningham on 17 July 2009

Say goodbye to spark plugs, a 19th century technology which, according to reports, could be supplanted by lasers.


Bye bye spark plugs, 'ello lasers.
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London's Daily Telegraph newspaper is reporting that Ford is working with the University of Liverpool to develop a laser ignition system for internal-combustion engines. That's right: engines with lasers strapped to their heads.

The laser beam is delivered by a thin, fibre-optic cable to a focusing lens that would take up much less space than a spark plug, allowing engineers greater flexibility in designing valves and cylinders. The laser beam can be split to ignite the fuel mixture from multiple points deep in the cylinder — as opposed to a spark plug which is located either at the top or bottom of an engine — making for a more efficient burn than a spark plug can achieve, reducing emissions and getting better fuel economy. Another advantage to the laser system is that part of the beam can be reflected to a receiver and used to gather data on the fuel mixture and the quality of the burn.

And this isn't merely a research project, as there are working prototypes of the system at the University of Liverpool laboratory. Ford, which has eagerly been adopting fuel efficiency technology such as electric-power steering and six-speed transmissions, reportedly will use the laser ignition system in some of its cars over the next couple of years, then spread the technology to the full range.

Currently internal-combustion engines that don't use diesel fuel require a spark plug to cause the engine's air and fuel mixture to ignite and release its energy. Diesel, or compression ignition, engines don't have a spark plug, but instead compress their air and fuel mixture so tightly that it combusts due to the pressure.


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Very interesting.
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search firestorm spark plugs. that is great stuff. safely running a 14.7+ a/f ratio at wot and greatly increasing gas mileage. too bad they r outlawed for mass production
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safely running a 14.7+ a/f ratio at wot

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.. old news, on the laser thing.. but cool none the less.
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ugh no embeded aloud here

YouTube - Firestorm Spark Plugs

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ugh no embeded aloud here

YouTube - Firestorm Spark Plugs

24/1 afr

You realize that's a scam, right? You can't believe everything you read. Or see on YouTube.
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You realize that's a scam, right? You can't believe everything you read. Or see on YouTube.

no its not. ive done my research. its not legal to manufactur them in the US

edit: here we go. my friend emailed this to me

Directory:Firestorm Spark Plug - PESWiki

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no its not. ive done my research. its not legal to manufactur them in the US

edit: here we go. my friend emailed this to me

Directory:Firestorm Spark Plug - PESWiki

Good grief! Even in that link, they claim it lets you use water for fuel! Nearly all the discussion of these spark plugs is on "free energy"- and conspiracy-type sites. It's totally and completely a scam. You can tell just from the look of that site that it's a scam.

It is, of course, impossible to get more energy from burning hydrogen and oxygen than it took to split them from water in the first place. Here's a link to an electronics experts forum, with a whole bunch of links to threads devoted to debunking the idea of using water for fuel:
All About Circuits Forum - View Single Post - Stanly Meiyer Explained with science.

Electricity takes the path of least resistance, i.e. the shortest route. Multiple-ground electrode plugs have been around for years. As the electrode wears, the spark jumps to the next closest one. These plugs do not create a hotter spark, increase mileage, or produce more power. They can, however, extend the length of time between plug changes compared to a single electrode plug.

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I just searched the entire Code of Federal Regulations for "firestorm" and got this...

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This is the search report for the search you ran on Nov 6 17:55:58 2009.
It is a temporary file, and will expire about an hour after the search.

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Searching /wais/indexes/cfr...

Your query was:

FIRESTORM

The database contains 196,531,761 words in 260,347 documents.
There are no fields in this database.

firestorm does not occur in the database.

The search found 0 documents. It took less than a second.

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Good grief! Even in that link, they claim it lets you use water for fuel! Nearly all the discussion of these spark plugs is on "free energy"- and conspiracy-type sites. It's totally and completely a scam. You can tell just from the look of that site that it's a scam.

It is, of course, impossible to get more energy from burning hydrogen and oxygen than it took to split them from water in the first place. Here's a link to an electronics experts forum, with a whole bunch of links to threads devoted to debunking the idea of using water for fuel:
All About Circuits Forum - View Single Post - Stanly Meiyer Explained with science.

Electricity takes the path of least resistance, i.e. the shortest route. Multiple-ground electrode plugs have been around for years. As the electrode wears, the spark jumps to the next closest one. These plugs do not create a hotter spark, increase mileage, or produce more power. They can, however, extend the length of time between plug changes compared to a single electrode plug.

umm ok its not like u can get firestorm plugs anyways. but w/e ima stand by my info n u can stand by urs. not gonna hurt me at all cause ill never have em
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Reposted thread is a repost.

No more sparkplugs???
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