That's because there is the 'stall' that happens between gears for a manual, whereas that doesn't happen in an auto -- and people don't realise that, and get too close. That's the only explanation that I could give you.
I don't mean performance vehicles. Ford is putting turbos in everything. It doesn't matter what people drive, they seem to act as if the throttle pedal is an on/off switch. I've had people damn near rear-end me when I was shifting gears leaving a stoplight.
Power and speed are going up in regular, run-of-the-mill passenger cars, and the days of "pre-loading the pedal" are starting to go away because of it. I've been in some friends / co-workers newer vehicles and they're twitchy as hell because they're still not used to the power on tap.
Just think of an old guy in his new Camry V6 (or Ram R/T) who doesn't see the light change, someone beeps, and he floors it. "Uh, sorry officer... I didn't know it was that fast."
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One week before Chrysler's planned media unveil of Fiat's future plans for Chrysler, The Wall Street Journal's reporting nine current vehicles will be axed from the lineup and one Chrysler plus three Alfa Romeos will be added. Full list below.
Basically, Chrysler gets to be the brand of — umm — a minivan, a large sedan and a little cinquecento. Dodge gets gutted and apparently becomes the retro brand. Ram pickup trucks are — umm — maybe their own brand? Jeep gets back to basics (yay!) and Alfa Romeo randomly shows up, adding a small car, a smaller car, a mid-size and the 8c competizione.
So basically, Fiat's grooming Alfa Romeo to replace Chrysler.
Chrysler
* PT Cruiser dead
* Sebring dead
* Town and Country
* 300: Redesign in 2011
* Fiat 500: 2011
Dodge
* Caliber dead
* Nitro dead
* Avenger dead
* Grand Caravan dead
* Charger: Redesign in 2011
* Challenger
* Journey
* Ram trucks (separate brand?)
Jeep
* Commander dead
* Compass dead
* Patriot dead
* Wrangler
* Grand Cherokee: Redesign in 2010
Alfa Romeo
* Mito
* Milano (replacing 147)
* New Mid-Size Sedan
* 8C Competizione
If this list is true, this is quite the shakeup. I am surprised about the Grand Caravan, as well as Ram trucks still listed under Dodge. Also note that Fiat will not be a North American brand, but Alfa will be (which makes sense to me).
Now, the true announcement is a week away. I'm kinda holding my breath; I can't see Dodge and Chrysler without the Grand Caravan, compact or a mid-size. They may be the bottom-scrapers of the barrel right now, but they're still selling a few. Unless they're planning a year-break for the models and introduce all new ones based on Fiats/Alfas.
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It's more guess-work by the media at this point.. it's not official until it's official.
We've had far less official sources on here sharing info; which is why I added my disclaimer that I'm not really believing the info, but it's still info from someone, seeing as we haven't heard jack-diddley squat lately.
Consumer Reports, in their annual initial reliability survey results released this afternoon, provides good news for Ford, which is perceived as offering quality and reliability on par with Asian automakers. Chrysler, on the other hand, dropped to near-Daewoo levels.
The report will show that, among American automakers, Ford did the best on the survey achieving an average or better-than-average with 46-of-51 models. This compares to an unimpressive 21-of-48 for GM and a depressing 1-of-26 models for Chrysler. Additionally, in the family sedan reliability category, the new Ford Fusion and Merury Milan are only bested by the Toyota Prius.
There is a lot of negative opinion on the current models out there; the more I think about it, the more a break and new product makes sense.
the prius is a family sedan? Dude, CR - is bs.. they always have favored people who advertise in their magazine.. and the one thing japan/ford/gm does, that chrysler doesn't.. is advertise; although, with that said - there are 3 new ads from Chryco..
They are doing what they need to do with Jeep, although I still think Jeep is best as a 3 model brand and they are going to need a 'midsize' between the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee. Yes i know there is a 4 door wrangler but even so, there needs to be a 'bridge' between the two models. And a 'true' jeep at that.
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One of the most realistic parts of this video is that it shows two guys riding together in the Subaru, they are in love, I think it is a touching and realistic portrayal of Subaru owners and I applaud them for it.
And as far as the Caravan being a 'bottom scraper', that is totally wrong, the Caravan still outdoes every other minivan in a majority of automotive publications and many of the customer surveys as far as being the best overall minivan on the market.
They are doing what they need to do with Jeep, although I still think Jeep is best as a 3 model brand and they are going to need a 'midsize' between the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee. Yes i know there is a 4 door wrangler but even so, there needs to be a 'bridge' between the two models. And a 'true' jeep at that.
Agreed. Although the Nitro is listed as dead, I don't see the Liberty listed at all.
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The reason they can put down decent 1/4mile times is mostly in part to the solid rear axel and its ability to hook and go. But we all know that doesnt mean crap from a dig.
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