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Old 05-28-2009, 01:44 PM   #4936 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by RTShadow View Post
Ah, so it IS pretty much a Caliber on the outside

More like a Journey.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:45 PM   #4937 (permalink)
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Dimensions:

CALIBER
Overall Length - 173.8"
Overall Width - 68.8"
Overall Height - 60.4"
Wheelbase - 103.7"
Track - 59"
Turning Diameter - 35.50' (R/T 37.20')
Ground Clearance - 8.1" (SE 7.7")

VENZA
Overall length - 189"
Overall width - 75"
Overall height - 63.4"
Wheelbase - 109.3"
Track (front/rear) - 64.2/64.4
Track with AWD (front/rear) - 64.2/64.2
Turning diameter - 39.1"
Ground clearance - 8.1"

Venza is bigger all around, with ~6" more shoulder room front and back. It weighs 800-1000 lbs more, and the base model starts at almost $26,000. It's a midsize wagon, not a quasi-compact wagon like the Caliber.

It's a crossover, not a wagon.
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:59 PM   #4938 (permalink)
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Well, size is one thing, but the overall look is another. I just hope people who think the caliber looks like 'crap' aren't praising the venza Interior, well, that is another story I'm sure heheh
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Venza sounds like a disease.

I hate catching InfluVenza.
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Well, size is one thing, but the overall look is another. I just hope people who think the caliber looks like 'crap' aren't praising the venza Interior, well, that is another story I'm sure heheh

Once I can drive stick again I'd seriously consider buying an SRT.
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Well, size is one thing, but the overall look is another. I just hope people who think the caliber looks like 'crap' aren't praising the venza Interior, well, that is another story I'm sure heheh

I hate the Caliber and I like the Venza. They do not look anything alike in my book. Greenhouse profile is about the only real similarity between the two, and that's far from enough to make them "look the same".

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It's a crossover, not a wagon.

Crossover is the modern word for wagon Wagon doesn't fly with car buyers anymore, so the industry just came up with a new buzzword. The Venza is, for all intensive purposes, a Camry wagon. It shares chassis as well as drivetrain platforms with the Camry.

crossover = wagon.
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I hate the Caliber and I like the Venza. They do not look anything alike in my book. Greenhouse profile is about the only real similarity between the two, and that's far from enough to make them "look the same".



Crossover is the modern word for wagon Wagon doesn't fly with car buyers anymore, so the industry just came up with a new buzzword. The Venza is, for all intensive purposes, a Camry wagon. It shares chassis as well as drivetrain platforms with the Camry.

crossover = wagon.

The Venza is significantly beefier and is in the Edge/Munaro/Journey class. You can apply the same logic to traditional suvs and wagons, especially considering the suv's styling is more closely related to a wagon than the crossover.
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The Venza is significantly beefier and is in the Edge/Munaro/Journey class.

Call it what you want, but it's on the Camry platform, just like the Murano is on the Altima platform, and the Journey uses the Avenger platform.

Toyota Venza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The Venza uses the Camry chassis and will offer Toyota's 3.5-litre 2GR-FE V6 or 2.7-litre 1AR-FE I4 engine, both mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission. Front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive will be available as an option.

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Crossover is the modern word for wagon Wagon doesn't fly with car buyers anymore, so the industry just came up with a new buzzword. The Venza is, for all intensive purposes, a Camry wagon. It shares chassis as well as drivetrain platforms with the Camry.

crossover = wagon.

Yep, it's just a marketing thing. Many of the so-called "hatchbacks" on the market today are really wagons too, but you'll never see them called that.
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Call it what you want, but it's on the Camry platform, just like the Murano is on the Altima platform, and the Journey uses the Avenger platform.

Toyota Venza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the PT and Neon shared a platform yet were categorized differently. Like I stated earlier, if you're going to lump crossovers in with the station wagons, then you certainly have to do the same with suvs.
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And the PT and Neon shared a platform yet were categorized differently. Like I stated earlier, if you're going to lump crossovers in with the station wagons, then you certainly have to do the same with suvs.

Nope. "Regular" SUVs don't share a platform with a car, they are built about a truck platform.

The Neon and PT are/were both C segment cars. They were classified the same way.
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Did someone rename the thread, "Current Toyota products", that I missed? Go start a new thread to compare and contrast the new Venza already.
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Yep, it's just a marketing thing. Many of the so-called "hatchbacks" on the market today are really wagons too, but you'll never see them called that.

The only companies out there admitting they sell wagons to us are German. Or so it seems.
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