Curious which of its models Fiat plans to send over to the United States to sell through its planned partnership with Chrysler? Wonder no more. The most recent set of documents filed in Chrysler's Chapter 11 proceedings offer a number of intriguing clues as to what we can expect to see in the coming years.
Tom LaSorda, current ChryCo Veep, suggests that Fiat has agreed to assemble a vehicle using its C-EVO platform at one of Chrysler's underutilized U.S. plants. Further, Robert Manzo, executive director of Capstone Advisory Group, has specifically named the Fiat 500, Grande Punto and Panda (tellingly, Manzo called the Panda a Jeep) along with the Mito and Milano from Alfa Romeo as models coming to the aid of Chrysler.
Joining these new models would also be Fiat's 3.0-liter diesel V6 and 1.4-liter four-cylinder Multiair engine line, along with the Italian automaker's dual-clutch automatic gearbox, which would replace the units Chrysler will no longer be receiving from Getrag. The biggest question left unanswered seems to be what will be left of Chrysler's current line?
Firstly, the Town and Country is as good as gone, as well as the PT Cruiser. The Aspen will go next, then the Sebring will fade by the end of 2011, only because of fleet value. I've been told the Grand Cherokee, if it makes it to production- Dodge, Chrysler variant. Which is good.
Things right now are actually up in the air on the Charger. It might switch to a longer wheelbase Avenger with AWD.
The selling of many "dead assets" (Viper, Dakota, WRANGLER ! etc...) are set to go within the next year.
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The selling of many "dead assets" (Viper, Dakota, WRANGLER ! etc...) are set to go within the next year.
They're going to eliminate the Wrangler? Isn't it responsible for a significant portion of Jeep's sales? I can't see how Jeep without the Wrangler will make sense.
The new GC will be saturated, IF it makes it to production... Isn't that one of the problems of the current line up?
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The reason they can put down decent 1/4mile times is mostly in part to the solid rear axel and its ability to hook and go. But we all know that doesnt mean crap from a dig.
WRANGLER!?..... WRANGLER?!..... WRANGLER?!..... WTF?! What the hell are they thinking?!
Liquidation of Chrysler assets "assumes that certain car lines and the plant assets supporting them will be sold as going-concern enterprises. These lines include Jeep Wrangler, Dodge Viper and Dodge Ram and Dakota truck lines."The example of the Jeep Wrangler is instructive, a potential buyer would face significant additional investment costs in the range of $550 million to $1 billion.
"These additional costs include in excess of $100 million for signage to establish a dealer network, supplier-related costs exceeding $250 million and upwards of another $150 million in associated marketing costs to relaunch the car line. There are likely other significant costs that a potential buyer would have to incur in order to re-establish the brand. In addition, recent market experience reflected in the efforts to sell Saturn, Opel, Saab and Hummer brands indicates an extremely depressed market for stand-alone automotive brands."
If you read it carefully, you'll see that they're making a case for Chrysler NOT to be liquidated. This post on Jalopnik explains it better than I can:
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@dtremit: As I read the posted excerpt (and scan the rest of the article), it seems to be saying that
--if they liquidate, they would try to sell Wrangler and/or Jeep as something worth keeping alive, not kill it.
--it would be tough to sell.
It was taken out of context, and people are freaking out. The Wrangler isn't going anywhere.
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Obviously you are not detecting the sarcasim in my posts.
nothing is going anywhere just yet -- I think this is an "oh noes it are Chrysler, Chrysler are fail!" posting. <_<
The PT has been planned for removal for quite some time. I imagine they don't want the minivan in their "high-end" line-up, and leave that to the Dodge line with Caravan; although, if that's the case, why did they do the Electric Postal-van as the T&C?
If the new GC makes it to production, it'll share platforms with the new Durango, and probably Aspen, Just completely different components for all, i hope. The Charger will be here, it's selling as a Police car still; I doubt they'd keep the old architecture for the Police units, and just stop making them otherwise. Then you just leave the Police with the GM's and the CarbonMotors E7 (Which looks like a chopped up 300C anyways).
I was quite surprised by the lact of professionalism chrysler had by informing the dealerships to be closed by courier, you would think they would have called them individually, or had a rep go out to them.
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One of the most realistic parts of this video is that it shows two guys riding together in the Subaru, they are in love, I think it is a touching and realistic portrayal of Subaru owners and I applaud them for it.
They are bankrupt. I'm suprised they could afford the stamp.
They aren't bankrupt in the 'we are totally broke and going under' sense though, they declared bankruptcy in order to force the hedge fund holders (who have 30% of the debt) to agree to the terms of the debt consolidation that the banks (who have 70% of the debt) already agreed to.
They aren't bankrupt in the 'we are totally broke and going under' sense though, they declared bankruptcy in order to force the hedge fund holders (who have 30% of the debt) to agree to the terms of the debt consolidation that the banks (who have 70% of the debt) already agreed to.
You're right, that won't happen until at least 6 or 7 months from now.
Toyota just posted their worst loss ever, Honda was right behind them, both are closing plants in the united states and offering workers in both countries buyout programs. People want to blame this on specific 'cars' when the vast majority of the blame should be on the economy.
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