A bankruptcy filing won't mean the end of the company. Under the bankruptcy law that Chrysler is filing under, a judge would decide how much creditors would get, but is likely to go with any settlement agreed to by the majority of the creditors, the people said.
Well, although bankruptcy sucks, it may not be much different from what the outcome was in the first place, it just forces the hedge fund creditors, who hold 30% of the debt, to go along with the deal already agreed to by the majority banks who hold the other 70%.
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1. Consolodate brands. No more stand-alone dealerships = bye bye platform engineering. GM killing Saturn and Pontiac; more of the same here.
2. Trim the fat:
Chrysler:The poor-mans Lexus. Small car: None. Mid-sized car: None. Once stabilized, bring in Fiat Bravo or Linea (no base models, full load only). Full-size car: 300C. Iconic to the brand; keep it alive. Chrysler SRT: 300C SRT8 Killed: Town & Country, Sebring, Sebring Convert, Aspen
Dodge:Middle-class Americana. Small Car:Fiat Panda. Kill the Caliber. Sporty coupe:Fiat Grande Punto Mid-sized: Again, Fiat Bravo, maybe Linea. Leave high-end models to Chrysler; entry and mid-level trim only. Fiat Croma possible. Mid-sized truck: Dakota. For the love of god, refresh it. Full-size truck: D'uh... RAM. Crossover: Journey Large SUV: Durango. Refresh. Van: Caravan / Grand Caravan Dodge SRT: Grande Punto with a 2.4L turbo in it; Abarth SS = R/T. Charger SRT8. Viper SRT10. Killed: Avenger, Caliber, Nitro, Sprinter
This would give them a solid basis, with a minimal loss of platforms (goodbye GS, JS), and give the New Chrysler v4.0 a strong lineup with minimal repetition between in-house brands.
It's bad enough there's as much selection out there as it is, I think it's pathetic people shopping for a 5-door family car have 4 choices alone from ChryCo. Make the choices clear for the consumer, concentrate on your core products, cut the crap, and come out guns blazing.
As much as I'd love to see the 500 (let alone the Abarth) as a Chrysler / Dodge, I don't think Fiat will let their little gem get diluted with a Chrysler badge on the front.
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1. Consolodate brands. No more stand-alone dealerships = bye bye platform engineering. GM killing Saturn and Pontiac; more of the same here.
2. Trim the fat:
Chrysler:The poor-mans Lexus. Small car: None. Mid-sized car: None. Once stabilized, bring in Fiat Bravo or Linea (no base models, full load only). Full-size car: 300C. Iconic to the brand; keep it alive. Chrysler SRT: 300C SRT8 Killed: Town & Country, Sebring, Sebring Convert, Aspen
Dodge:Middle-class Americana. Small Car:Fiat Panda. Kill the Caliber. Sporty coupe:Fiat Grande Punto Mid-sized: Again, Fiat Bravo, maybe Linea. Leave high-end models to Chrysler; entry and mid-level trim only. Fiat Croma possible. Mid-sized truck: Dakota. For the love of god, refresh it. Full-size truck: D'uh... RAM. Crossover: Journey Large SUV: Durango. Refresh. Van: Caravan / Grand Caravan Dodge SRT: Grande Punto with a 2.4L turbo in it; Abarth SS = R/T. Charger SRT8. Viper SRT10. Killed: Avenger, Caliber, Nitro, Sprinter
This would give them a solid basis, with a minimal loss of platforms (goodbye GS, JS), and give the New Chrysler v4.0 a strong lineup with minimal repetition between in-house brands.
It's bad enough there's as much selection out there as it is, I think it's pathetic people shopping for a 5-door family car have 4 choices alone from ChryCo. Make the choices clear for the consumer, concentrate on your core products, cut the crap, and come out guns blazing.
As much as I'd love to see the 500 (let alone the Abarth) as a Chrysler / Dodge, I don't think Fiat will let their little gem get diluted with a Chrysler badge on the front.
I don't know about killing the Avenger...I see those things all around my city. But that'd be a good list.
Chrysler should get a compass/caliber or a grand punto. Even an SRT 2.0T version.
Get the Imperial built.
Lose every car just like toasteroven says except the T&C.
Dodge should never build a Panda. They need the Hornet for a decent price under $20k.
A mid-sized Fiat car.
Trim the fat on the Dakota but keep it beefy completely refresh that.
Ram - Trim the price on the trunk fenders. Use that creativity for a greater selling point.
Kill the Avenger, Durango or Nitro, Caravan
Jeep keep the Compass but more Trail worthy Rally like or something. Make it look more like a Liberty.
Chrysler should get a compass/caliber or a grand punto. Even an SRT 2.0T version.
Get the Imperial built.
Lose every car just like toasteroven says except the T&C.
Dodge should never build a Panda. They need the Hornet for a decent price under $20k.
A mid-sized Fiat car.
Trim the fat on the Dakota but keep it beefy completely refresh that.
Ram - Trim the price on the trunk fenders. Use that creativity for a greater selling point.
Kill the Avenger, Durango or Nitro, Caravan
Jeep keep the Compass but more Trail worthy Rally like or something. Make it look more like a Liberty.
Keep.. the compass.... The Compass is everything that Jeep is NOT.
It needs to die... The Patriot needs to be more like the Cherokee. Hell, they need to bring the Cherokee back.
The key here is to eliminate cross-brand pollution. While I do suggest killing the Chrysler Town & Country, it would make sense to have a Dodge Town & Country trim level on the Caravan. Eliminates the need for crash testing because of different grille designs, etc.
Also, makes it very easy for the consumer; which trim level would they prefer, instead of which trim level would they prefer on which minivan, with a few different exterior pieces.
Agreed. I think they should bring back the Pacifica, honestly, for the Chrysler brand. They've had a difficult time defining "Chrysler" since Daimler aborted it. I think the line should go as such; all with all-electric, range-extended electric, or Hemi hybrid/dual-mode, if they really feel they must, the "Penastar' v6's.
ME412 as the Halo. But not until they get the other stuff taken care of.
Aspen (Off what will be the new Durango platform; since it will be a longer vehicle)
Pacifica (off the Grand Cherokee platform (AWD))
Chrysler Imperial (highest-end sedan)
Chrysler 300
Chrysler 200
[Entry Vehicle] If they opt to do it that way. If they don't do an entry vehicle, I wouldn't blame them, because it's the "higher-end" marque of ChryCo.
Dodge Challenger (SRT10 and SRT8 models available for the top-end)
Dodge Charger (new one released soon)
Dodge Avenger (new one coming)
Dodge Hornet (on Fiat Panda 4x4 - platform, not skin)
Dodge Caliber SUT (click the [LINK])
Dodge Neon/Colt (based on Fiat 500 / Arbarth for SRT)
Dodge Ram (duh)
Dodge Dakota/Rampage (Click the [LINK])
Dodge Durango (duh)
Jeep Grand Cherokee (revealed)
Jeep Cherokee (basically a low-level base model of the GC. I still think the GC should be a trim-level, not a model)
Jeep J10 (Ram based)
Jeep Wrangler (duh)
Jeep Patriot (+Penastar, and true 4x4, not electric awd; more like XJ)
I do see the need for a little rally-car from Jeep; that would be fun to have too; which is why most people liked the Compass as it was. The car is not a failure; whoever decided on the front-bumper design is the failure. The car itself is quite nice, and very comparable to the other two. It would be great for rallying, if it were not so FWD reliant. [Production Bumper][Compass Rallye] < you tell me who fails.
Seriously, just reskin the thing to make it look like the new design language, and voila. Most people who actually drove the thing, or were driven in it, were impressed.
Seriously, just reskin the thing to make it look like the new design language, and voila. Most people who actually drove the thing, or were driven in it, were impressed.
Though alot of it was Mercedes.. Which well... we aren't a part of anymore.
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