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Old 07-29-2008, 11:06 PM   #4351 (permalink)
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GMAC has joined the WTFleasingNO club;

GMAC to end subsidized vehicle leasing



Holy hell. I didn't know it was that high.

I believe it, no doubt about it, actually I thought it was higher, like 50+%.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:24 PM   #4352 (permalink)
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areas in the midwest are going to shit a brick. those people mostly drive 12k or less per year and lease due to the huge incentives to do so. they are going to get some serious sticker shock when they have to pay a real payment.

the lease was a loosing situation for the dealer. in 6 years i have not seen one lease turn in in which the residual owed was less than the trade value.

if chrysler was circling the drain, wouldn't they just keep leasing? they wouldn't care about losing money in the future...
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:48 PM   #4353 (permalink)
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Its so they have more money in a several years possibly to bail out. Its not like they are going out of business in the next year or something.
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:39 AM   #4354 (permalink)
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Its so they have more money in a several years possibly to bail out. Its not like they are going out of business in the next year or something.

You were being sarcastic, right? Because that may just happen. Now everyone go and buy a new Chrysler vehicle so it doesn't. Just don't go into it thinking you'll be able to lease it.

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Fitch lowers Chrysler's credit ratings

Citing “restricted access” to competitive sales financing, Fitch Ratings lowered Chrysler's credit rating farther into junk territory on Tuesday.

Chrysler’s long-term issuer default rating dropped from B- to CCC, eight levels below investment grade, and Fitch rates its outlook as “negative.” Chrysler’s bank debt rating was lowered to B from BB-.

Chrysler Financial is in the process of renewing its debt and Fitch says higher costs the company will have to pay will make it more difficult for it to offer competitive financing for retail sales.

Given the state of the market, Fitch believes alternative financial sources are unlikely to fill the gap, meaning further erosion of Chrysler sales, forcing the automaker to further curtail production. Chrysler's U.S. sales are already off 22 percent for the first six months of the year, more than twice the ten percent decline experienced by the auto industry as a whole.

Fitch says if industry sales don’t improve in 2009, Chrysler’s resources could drop below the minimum level needed to fund operations by the second half of the year. The New York-based ratings company warns “This could be accelerated in the event that suppliers or retail customers become concerned with Chrysler's financial condition and restrict trade credit or reduce retail purchases.”

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Old 08-01-2008, 09:42 PM   #4355 (permalink)
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it seems mopar had jumped the gun on the new interiors of the patriot and compass...

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7899

right from the '09 patriot accessories brochure apparently
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:58 AM   #4356 (permalink)
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2nd one with the khaki patriot interior is a photoshop, but otherwise, I like it.
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:10 PM   #4357 (permalink)
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it seems mopar had jumped the gun on the new interiors of the patriot and compass...

New 2009 Model interior shots - Jeep Patriot Forums

right from the '09 patriot accessories brochure apparently

I was under the impression that the redesign addressed the materials used more than the look.
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:35 PM   #4358 (permalink)
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2nd one with the khaki patriot interior is a photoshop, but otherwise, I like it.


ya for sure it is, i mean you can still se the old center console with the ipod holder, etc
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:02 AM   #4359 (permalink)
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Whoa, Steve is back? Sweet! Good to see you around Brother!


On a side note, '08 SRT8 Challengers are selling @ $10k above MSRP because they are selling for $10k above MSRP at dealer auction.
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then why are they selling for 25k$ over at our dealer (who has 4 of them, 2 black, an orange, and a silver)

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then why are they selling for 25k$ over at our dealer (who has 4 of them, 2 black, an orange, and a silver)

They might be "asking" for 25k over, hoping that some sucker will come along and get greased for an extra 25k, but chances are they are not getting anywhere close to that. You can find '08 Challengers all over the place for MSRP or less.
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then why are they selling for 25k$ over at our dealer (who has 4 of them, 2 black, an orange, and a silver)

Because people are dumb?
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:45 PM   #4363 (permalink)
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then why are they selling for 25k$ over at our dealer (who has 4 of them, 2 black, an orange, and a silver)

Local Dealer here is selling them at the "No Dicker Sticker" for ~ 1,500.00 UNDER Sticker price!!
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dealer here has an orange/cf challenger on the lot..........


originaly buyer backed out.
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Lucky for this dude, we didn't have a chance to run (we left jack in the box at the same time). Would have sucked for him to pay 20K over sticker, and get beat by a car sold 20K under sticker.

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