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Old 02-02-2008, 10:00 PM   #3946 (permalink)
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But that would cost money....


R&D for a steering wheel is insane.

No, but testing a new wheel with frontal and side crash tests, airbag integration, fabric / material durability and color fastness...

Sharing common components is the true essence of platform brand engineering. However, finding the right balance of difference between brands and meeting budget is the trick. With the dropping of the Magnum from the LX lineup, something tells me that the radical sheetmetal departures on the three LX siblings probably cost more that it should have; they're not making as much as they should be. Remember GM cars of the 90s? Different grille and tailights? That's brand engineering done wrong.

So, that being said, I would not be surprised one bit if we were shown a picture of an '09 Challenger interior, and a pic of an '09 Charger interior... and with the exception of the gear shift and some minor trim, they'd be exactly the same.
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:44 AM   #3947 (permalink)
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leiter and I will be in Philly for the unveiling of the Challenger
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:51 AM   #3948 (permalink)
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They can't even have one CAR steering wheel, and one Mini-Van/Truck steering wheel?

They can really only afford to produce ONE type of steering wheel at a time?

Really?

Does the Ford Focus, Ford F-150 and Mustang have the same wheel?








Ohhh, that must be why Ford is in bad financial shape, and Chrylser is doing great....

OR, its the reason Chrysler's interiors continue to be a joke.

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No, but testing a new wheel with frontal and side crash tests, airbag integration, fabric / material durability and color fastness...

Sharing common components is the true essence of platform brand engineering. However, finding the right balance of difference between brands and meeting budget is the trick. With the dropping of the Magnum from the LX lineup, something tells me that the radical sheetmetal departures on the three LX siblings probably cost more that it should have; they're not making as much as they should be. Remember GM cars of the 90s? Different grille and tailights? That's brand engineering done wrong.

So, that being said, I would not be surprised one bit if we were shown a picture of an '09 Challenger interior, and a pic of an '09 Charger interior... and with the exception of the gear shift and some minor trim, they'd be exactly the same.

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Old 02-03-2008, 12:52 PM   #3949 (permalink)
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Ohhh, that must be why Ford is in bad financial shape, and Chrylser is doing great....

OR, its the reason Chrysler's interiors continue to be a joke.

Maybe its the key to Chrysler's "success"

EDIT: oh ya, that Focus interior is the nastiest thing ever



But the Ram, Caliber and Viper have different steering wheels.
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:46 AM   #3950 (permalink)
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:55 AM   #3951 (permalink)
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More here:
LC: 2008 Dodge Challenger (and 2009 Challenger)

I liek it, it looks better with the mygig. but that auto
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so, what, no telemetry? That was the coolest feature of the concept's interior. Except, of course, for the interior
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so, what, no telemetry? That was the coolest feature of the concept's interior. Except, of course, for the interior

the telemetry is done on the EVIC on the spedo gauge (on the bottom of it actually) if im not mistaken
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finally Autoblog has the full spread! Did anyone else notice the that little butterflys in the hood scoops were replaced with plastic?

Chicago 2008: It's here - 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 - Autoblog

This was my favorite in the picture gallery:

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So the official specs are out for the challenger, and the weight is 4,140 lbs!!! My 06 charger r/t weighs 4,031 lbs.. how the hell did they manage to shorten the LX platform and build a smaller car that weighs more?

2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8: Revealed, Officially!
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So the official specs are out for the challenger, and the weight is 4,140 lbs!!! My 06 charger r/t weighs 4,031 lbs.. how the hell did they manage to shorten the LX platform and build a smaller car that weighs more?

2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8: Revealed, Officially!

More heavy-duty equipment Sucks that it weighs so much
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That weight makes it a definite no for me. What a shame, looks pretty good though.
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That weight makes it a definite no for me. What a shame, looks pretty good though.

Am I the only one that really doesn't give two shits about the weight? I think that some of you just have to come to the realization that this car is based off a more upmarket/"luxury"(used very loosely) vehicle built for comfort and practicality. There was no existing sports coupe or chasis that would have made this car economically viable otherwise. Go and buy an elise or an exige if you want a light weight sports coupe(either of which costs more, by the way), not something whose drivetrain alone weighs more than those cars.

Personally, I will buy one for sheer looks alone and secondly performance once the 392 with a 6 speed hits in a couple years. That car will humble 99% of the cars out there when I want it to and look awesome doing it.
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They can't even have one CAR steering wheel, and one Mini-Van/Truck steering wheel?

They can really only afford to produce ONE type of steering wheel at a time?

Really?

Does the Ford Focus, Ford F-150 and Mustang have the same wheel?

Ohhh, that must be why Ford is in bad financial shape, and Chrylser is doing great....

OR, its the reason Chrysler's interiors continue to be a joke.

Sorry to bring this up again, but your argument is absolutely terrible. You argue that an economy car, truck, and sports car have different steering wheels for one manufacturer and alude to the fact that dodge uses the same wheel for all three of those types of vehicles.

economy car


truck


sports car


Am I missing something? Thanks allpar and dodge for the pictures.
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