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Old 09-27-2007, 08:25 AM   #2866 (permalink)
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but they want the torque to get going through the soft stuff.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:06 PM   #2867 (permalink)
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Yea screw using the same number of 4.0 to accommodate Wrangler enthusiasts and have a decent amount of power… These things are slow.

Oddly enough, most people who buy Wranglers aren't interested in drag racing them.

You know, you're usually on-point but that's probably the dumbest statement I've read today.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:13 PM   #2868 (permalink)
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Yea screw using the same number of 4.0 to accommodate Wrangler enthusiasts and have a decent amount of power… These things are slow.

Oddly enough, most people who buy Wranglers aren't interested in drag racing them.


Oh ok, so everyone is buying Nitro RTs to drag race them??

Yes thats why the Hemi sells, everyone with a Ram Truck, LX,C/RTdrag races their cars...

This 3.8 Wrangler is a joke. (Ok, not as bad as deleting reg-cab Dakotas, and making their club cab worthless). The Dakota has been one of the biggest flops in the last 20 years… The Wrangler will still sell, but not as well as it could have. Chrysler must have some idiots working for them.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:45 PM   #2869 (permalink)
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Yea screw using the same number of 4.0 to accommodate Wrangler enthusiasts and have a decent amount of power… These things are slow.

Oddly enough, most people who buy Wranglers aren't interested in drag racing them.

You know, you're usually on-point but that's probably the dumbest statement I've read today.

Hey, he complained about "slow", not about torque. Slight difference there.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:58 PM   #2870 (permalink)
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Yea screw using the same number of 4.0 to accommodate Wrangler enthusiasts and have a decent amount of power… These things are slow.

Oddly enough, most people who buy Wranglers aren't interested in drag racing them.

You know, you're usually on-point but that's probably the dumbest statement I've read today.

Hey, he complained about "slow", not about torque. Slight difference there.

true...

I know tons of vehicles that have gobs of tq, but not much in acceleration dept.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:01 PM   #2871 (permalink)
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Yea screw using the same number of 4.0 to accommodate Wrangler enthusiasts and have a decent amount of power… These things are slow.

Oddly enough, most people who buy Wranglers aren't interested in drag racing them.

You know, you're usually on-point but that's probably the dumbest statement I've read today.

Hey, he complained about "slow", not about torque. Slight difference there.


feels like 4 cylinders worth of torque,

“Large” Minivan engine in much larger SUV = pathetic.

New 4.0L Makes more hp and almost as much torque as the fist 4.7L V8s... Perfect 6 cyl for Jeeps... Chrysler is on crack.

Nitro RT 4x2s feel faster than LX 3.5s… Good 1 for Dodge, Jeep dropped the ball big time.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:04 PM   #2872 (permalink)
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Yea screw using the same number of 4.0 to accommodate Wrangler enthusiasts and have a decent amount of power… These things are slow.

Oddly enough, most people who buy Wranglers aren't interested in drag racing them.

You know, you're usually on-point but that's probably the dumbest statement I've read today.

Hey, he complained about "slow", not about torque. Slight difference there.

true...

I know tons of vehicles that have gobs of tq, but not much in acceleration dept.

Yea 2nd Generation Ram 8.0L HDs...

Dodge Went from the 5.9 To the 5.7Hemi and added 100hp... I guess Rams are made for drag racing.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:06 PM   #2873 (permalink)
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i just hope that when i buy my 2010 jeep wranger 4 door rubicon it will have a hemi option
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:37 AM   #2874 (permalink)
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Dreaming. Plenty of shops out there that'll drop a 5.7, 6.1 or even a 5.9 CTD in it for ya, though.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:12 PM   #2875 (permalink)
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I actually think the 3.8 is fine in the new Wrangler. The 4.0 in the Wrangler was NEVER fast, it WAS torquey, but the new Wrangler with the 3.8 and the lower gearing is plenty. I wouldn't want much more power in a Wrangler IMHO My SRT-4 and other toys are for going fast, my Wrangler is for going anywhere. I've wheeled with a few so far, and they are VERY capable. Anyway being underpowered has always been a calling card for the CJ/YJ/TJ/and now JK models. All the way back to the Go Devil 4 and Hurricane 4. Its a JEEP, its not meant to be fast. Unfortunately, 90% of the owners will never realize how capable the new Wrangler is.

The other day I passed a new Rubicon Unlimited rollin on 24" Dubs, now THAT is disgusting.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:29 PM   #2876 (permalink)
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The other day I passed a new Rubicon Unlimited rollin on 24" Dubs, now THAT is disgusting.

hah - i'll top that with seeing a JK Rubicon, black, hard top, lifted, offroad wheels.. and... the bad part: a ricer wing. i was like WTF were you smoking when you decided to bolt that onto a jeep.\

or - seeing one "mexican jumping beaned-out" -- hydraulics & the traditional 13" whitewalls.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:20 PM   #2877 (permalink)
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Generally speaking, horsepower is usually a selling point to consumers. Consequently, I too wouldn't mind seeing a V8 option in the wrangler i.e. I'd prefer to own a V8 four door wrangler than a V8 Jeep Grand Cherokee...but thats just me.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:58 PM   #2878 (permalink)
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A big engine will be too heavy and really screw with side hill and downhill driving. I don't want a racer, just a little more engine to use on and off road. The 4.0L V6 would be just fine, really.

Although the 3.8L is adequate for the task, I've never been a fan of using an engine that's just good enough. Something that isn't wheezing as much would be nice.
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if we do that; just put one of the diesels in it instead; then you have the torque and power
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:40 AM   #2880 (permalink)
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c'mon guys.. Swaps are easy. I plan on swaping my '95 YJ I4 with a HEMI or maybe even an LS1. Buy the base motor model and swap it!
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